The Virginian-Pilot
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VIRGINIA BEACH
A year and a half after announcing a $40 million deal to buy an old rail line for a possible light-rail project, city officials are working frantically to finalize the agreement.
But a politically awkward issue remains to be resolved before the Sept. 24 deadline for the sale: Will the state require that the 10.6-mile corridor owned by Norfolk Southern be used for a light-rail project as a condition for releasing $20 million in grant money to buy the property?
That requirement could commit the city to pursuing light rail while officials have repeatedly said the corridor could be used for any kind of transportation project, including a bus rapid-transit system or a limited-access road.
It could undercut the city's consistent message that no decision on light rail will be made until a $5.7 million study is finished next year. It could also make the debate about whether the city should hold another light-rail referendum moot.
The City Council has not taken an official stance on light rail. Voters rejected it in a 1999 referendum.
Under the 2009 agreement to buy the corridor paralleling Interstate 264 between Newtown and Birdneck roads, the state would put in $20 million, the city would pay $10 million, Hampton Roads Transit would contribute $5 million, and the remaining $5 million would come from a utility easement on the property.
A spokesman for VDOT, the agency managing the $20 million grant, said Wednesday that legislation ties the money to a light-rail project. Later in the day the VDOT spokesman, Jeffrey Caldwell, softened that stance and said, "The nature of the project, whether it's a rail project or a bus rapid transit or some other type of project, is still being worked out, and that decision will be made through discussions with the city."
City Attorney Mark Stiles said, "We're still working it out." He said the plan is to publicly air the agreement Tuesday and that the City Council would vote on the transaction Sept. 14.
Councilman Jim Wood, former HRT board chairman, said the state would "short-circuit the process" by requiring a light-rail project.
"My assumption was the state money was for acquisition of the right of way and there weren't any strings attached," he said. "It's one hand not knowing what the other hand is doing. It's, unfortunately, an inefficient way to do business."
Mayor Will Sessoms, a light-rail proponent who's led negotiations acquiring the Norfolk Southern property, declined to comment.
The discussion has gone all the way to Gov. Bob McDonnell's office.
"The terms and conditions under which the funds will be provided are currently being developed," said McDonnell spokesman Tucker Martin. "We anticipate completing our negotiations with the City of Virginia Beach shortly. The funds will be provided to ensure this necessary project moves forward."
The legislation that authorized state funding though VDOT's Transportation Opportunity Partnership Fund said the money is for the "expansion of the Norfolk Light Rail System."
The author of that legislation, Del. Bob Tata, R-Virginia Beach, said it was his intention that the money be used for a light-rail project.
"My intent was to get rail so the rail in Norfolk doesn't become a rail to nowhere," he said. "Without the extension in Virginia Beach, you can't print enough money to keep that thing running. It's such a perfect match."
Aaron Applegate, (757) 222-5122, aaron.applegate@pilotonline.com

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Maybe if we keep asking over and over...
I would like to see the Virginian Pilot please ask the following and do a front page story on this issue.
Q. What was the tax-assessed value for this land immediately prior to the City offering $40 million for it? I believe the answer is somewhere around $10 million.
Q. Does the offer purchase fee simple absolute title (the whole thing) to the land? Or does the Seller retain the underground utility easements? I believe the answer is...the seller is not selling all of the title; it is keeping for itself the underground easement rights.
Q. How much rent do the underground easements generate? I have no idea, but I bet the rent is pretty good.
Q. Why is it a good deal to spend $40 million for property valued at $__ and yet allow the seller to keep the easements...and all just in case the City decides build a light rail project that 60% of the voters do not want?
NORFOLK SOUTHERN RAILBUSES
The cadre of individuals who can recall the old NS gasoline powered railbuses must be dwindling, as the last units, augmented by NS buses, operated between Norfolk-VB in Fall, 1947. However, from time-to-time an "I remember when" piece addressing these venerable units will appear in THE PILOT. One ex-NS railcar reportedly found its way to a tourist railroad in CA.
In a sense current HRT 20 Route is a descendent of this long-ago rail passenger service. Norfolk Southern buses, followed by Carolina Trailways coaches, provided frequent service between Norfolk-VB Oceanfront. Following the demise of the TWYS operation, subsequent service was provided by the public carrier forerunners of HRT. Today's 20 Route is too long and too slow, suggesting splitting the line at perhaps the Newtown Road LRT stop. Also, implementing Limited Stop service east of Newtown Road, in order to enhance the speed of service.
Well here is Will Sessoms
Well here is Will Sessoms way out of voting for the referendum before he voted against it. Here he and the rest of council can say they 'had' to vote to implement light rail to VB because it is now state mandated in order to get the state funds. So the citizens of VB will once again get bamboozled for this train wreck that council was planning to approve anyway, regardless of the outcome of what voters said in 1999 and any future referendum on the subject. welcome to the poorhouse VB!
5.7 Million dollar study
Who the H*** called for a 5.7 million dollar study for light rail? And whose family member works there?
Link to passenger rail at Harbor Park?
I doubt long term parking will be allowed in many of the park and rides. A few people living in places like The Cosmopolitan or the Weston Condominiums might be willing to walk to a light rail station, but most would have to carry their luggage aboard a connecting rubber tired buss. Imagine juggling the luggage for an out of town trip while feeding the fare box on the bus. Then you have to buy a LRT ticket from the vending machine and find some place to set down your luggage without blocking the aisle aboard the light rail train. Of course finding a place for your luggage would probably also be an issue on the bus.
Doesn't sound at all convenient.
And I still haven't seen an estimate of how much it will cost to build and equip the extension (including the cost of the Norfolk Southern right of way and the Circuit City property). Note that in addition to the Virgina Beach segment being longer than the Norfolk segment it will probably require more elevated sections (to cross busy traffic arteries) and bridges over waterways.
Doesn't go to the Airport, Lynhaven Mall, Bases or The Beach
If you take the lite rail, your just being taken for a ride- nowhere else.
Trains and quality of life
How many remember the days when trains still rode the rails from Norfolk to VB each day. Granted they only came thru a couple times a day but if you had a business or residence near the tracks you remember the vibrations from the trains, the noise and the warning horns from those trains. Now multiply that to every 15 minutes or so 24/7/365. If you work or live within 1/2 mile of this thing it is going to be a real joy.
How about installing an opticom on a HRT bus similar to those used on public safety vehicles. They automatically change the lights at intersections on approach. A bus with an opticom installed assuming each intersection had a sensor could drive from Newtown Road to the ocean front non stop and with no delays other than boarding. Would it slow traffic at intersections? Sure but wont that happen anyway at each crossing?
Well russb757, as you know,
Well russb757, as you know, the proposal is for elevated grade crossings at Witchduck, Independence, Rosemont, Lynnhaven, and First Colonial/LOndon Bridge Road. Perhaps your suggestion would be OK at the others, but certainly not necessary if the elevated crossings are built.
That's great unless the
That's great unless the projection was two riders
HUH?
We all knew what it was for. What a charade.