Tight job market is bane of visiting foreign students

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VIRGINIA BEACH

When Rinnata Mussina arrived, exhausted by the long trip from her native Kazakhstan, she was prepared to start a summer job at an Oceanfront bike rental shop.

But the 23-year-old college student was told to come back the next week, then the week after, then the week after. The owner told her and a friend who'd traveled to Virginia with her that there wasn't enough business to hire them, Mussina said.

They shared a three-bedroom apartment with 10 other foreign students for $300 a month each, surviving mostly on rice and meals from a soup kitchen.

A steady job proved hard to find. Mussina worked briefly at an ice cream parlor until the hours dried up, sold cosmetics on commission at a mall kiosk and waited tables, but the hours weren't enough. She considered washing cars at a dealership for tips, but the idea of working in a bathing suit made her uncomfortable.

Finally, she got her current job in housekeeping at Country Inn & Suites on Atlantic Avenue.

Mussina is one of several thousand foreign students who came to Hampton Roads and the Outer Banks this summer to fill seasonal jobs, according to estimates from employers, sponsors and the Virginia Beach Hotel-Motel Association. They come every summer, recruited by businesses and sponsors who offer them an opportunity to make some money, practice their English and see the States.

Despite a decline in the number of foreign students coming, some reported an especially difficult time finding work this year.

Early this summer, the Judeo-Christian Outreach Center, which serves meals for people in need near the Oceanfront, was overwhelmed with foreign students, Executive Director Kirk Welch said.

"It started to become an issue when some of the locals weren't getting to eat," Welch said. So he limited foreign students to five meals, giving each of them a yellow punch card to keep track.

Artem Milka, a 19-year-old Russian, presented his card last month for a tray of spaghetti, salad, fruit and pie. He said it took him three weeks to find a job in hotel maintenance making $7.25 an hour.

"We don't earn enough money to pay for our own food, program, visa, ticket and rent," he said. And it's hard to find work, he added.

Before he returns home at the end of the month, Milka said he has to earn enough to repay his family the roughly $2,000 it cost to get here.

Most students arrive with a job offer in hand, but only some are guaranteed. Employers are trimming hours, said Phil Simon, vice president of employer relations at the Council on International Educational Exchange, a non profit sponsor that brought several hundred students here this summer.

And while many students have worked second, and sometimes third, jobs in the past, that's getting harder to do. Only two in 11 students interviewed for this story said they had a second job.

The tight job market means more students are coming for the cultural experience rather than for financial gain, Simon said.

Employers have maintained the program allows them to fill summer positions - largely unskilled jobs that pay minimum wage - that there aren't enough American workers for. This year, unemployment hit 8 percent in Hampton Roads and 12.5 percent in parts of northeast North Carolina. Now some out-of-work Americans may be competing for lower-paying jobs such as cashiers, cooks and housekeepers, said Greg Grootendorst, chief economist at the Hampton Roads Planning District Commission.

Michele Frey works as a housekeeper at the Oceanfront each summer. But the 56-year-old woman says she's been out of work two months despite completing about 70 applications.

Just before school ended in June, Marisa Bergfield, a 16-year-old student at First Colonial High School, hit the Oceanfront to look for jobs at retail stores, coffee shops and hotels. She said she was told that all the positions had been filled. She ended up finding three part-time jobs, but some of her friends weren't as lucky, she said.

"As fewer jobs become available, people are more open to looking at jobs that they would not have considered before," Grootendorst said. "That would include any lower-paying jobs."

But not everyone agreed that the students, who often make minimum wage of $7.25 an hour or just a bit more, compete with out-of-work Americans.

"Employers typically wouldn't use this program if they had sufficient American, qualified American, applicants," Simon said. "They're forced into this position."

With tourists flocking to the beach, he said, "meals still need to be delivered to tables. Beds still need to be made. Rooms still need to be cleaned."

Richard Maddox, who owns two Dairy Queens at the Oceanfront and two elsewhere in Virginia Beach, said he expected an influx of local applicants for summer jobs. They never came.

"There were over 4,000 foreign students here in Virginia Beach last year. They wouldn't be here if we had Americans," he said. "It has now gotten to the point where we have to hire people from the other side of the planet because we haven't found enough Americans to work for us."

Maddox said he hired about 55 foreign students this summer, about a third of his staff.

"It's very frustrating for me to hear how difficult it is for young kids now to get jobs because of the economy," he said. "I have seen absolutely no increase whatsoever in local teenagers applying for jobs with us."

In light of the tough job market, the State Department, which administers the work program, asked sponsors in February 2009 to reduce the number of participants. And they did.

Nationwide, the number dropped nearly 35 percent in 2009 to 99,672, from 152,958 the previous fiscal year, according to the State Department. So far this year, as of June 30, 95,394 students have come.

While comprehensive data isn't readily available for Hampton Roads and the Outer Banks, several sponsors said they've seen their numbers shrink by 20 to 30 percent. Nancy Marscheider Perry, executive director of the Virginia Beach Hotel-Motel Association, said she estimates that between 1,500 and 2,000 foreign students are here this summer, down from 3,000 to 4,000 in the past.

Despite the recession, Oceanfront employers say business has been pretty good. According to the Virginia Beach Convention and Visitor's Bureau, tourism-related revenue was up 4.2 percent through July.

The Oceanfront and the Outer Banks aren't the only places with a demand for foreign student labor. Teresa Ottofaro-Devries, the regional employment services manager for Cultural Homestay International, a non profit student sponsor, placed 21 students in Portsmouth, 10 in Chesapeake, four in Norfolk and nearly 200 in Williamsburg.

Sun O. Slusher and her husband hired three foreign students to work at their Subway restaurants on Granby Street and East Main Street in Norfolk.

"We had lots of trouble with the people over here, with the locals," Slusher said. "A lot of times they were not responsible enough," and would show up late or not at all, she said.

The international students didn't miss a day of work all summer, Slusher said. "They're wonderful."

Last week was the final week of work for Anna Bekaeva and Sergey Dvinakhov, 21-year-old Russian students who worked for Slusher. Now they plan to travel before returning home.

The program helped Bekaeva improve her English and provided the cash for some clothes, a laptop and travel money. At a similar job in Russia, she would have made half as much, Bekaeva said.

"In Russia, there's no money," she said. "There are no jobs for students."

Even those who struggled at first said they'll leave with a positive impression, including Rinnata Mussina, who hopes to come back.

"Everyone sees that I am a foreigner, and they're trying to help me. That's really good," she said. "I like the ocean. I like the people."

Kathy Adams, (757) 222-5155, kathy.adams@pilotonline.com

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Boss wants a workload of slaves

You say American kids have no work ethic's but I think your wrong. I think American businesses want robots or slaves. The worst was my youngest. I watch my youngest go to work on time every time he was scheduled, when he could get scheduled. When they called because someone else didn't came in, he was there. If he needed a rare day off for a family birthday or school event he told them weeks in advance and arranged his own back-up when they "forgot". When told to do something this way by one boss and that by another he just said "yes sir". The customers would stop him and I outside of work hours and tell me how nice he was and what a joy he was. What he got in return was minimum wage for a year and a half, no required work review, no promotion while others were and when called one night to cover someone else butt and he said he was busy with a college final, he was fired.

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However, due to their high English levels most of them chose to take higher paying jobs in other areas. The fact is that out of the 60+ countries that are available to come in during the summer there is less than half a dozen that are non white/Hispanic looking and they just do not have large numbers of students that either have an interest in coming or can afford to come.

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The fact is that most American kids just do not have the family values or work ethics that they once did. I can't tell you how many times I have gone in and they are talking on their cell phone or texting when they are suppose to be working. Many want to work but they limit their time such as refusing to work nights and weekends because that is their party time with their friends, oh a cute boy that I like has asked me out so I can't work tomorrow night sorry. Now are all American teenagers this way NO are all international students perfect NO.........but the fact is that if you were to take 100 Americans between the ages of 16-25 and 100 J-1's between the ages of 18-25 the work ethics, family values, and work performance levels will be much higher with the J-1's.

For the person who thinks that the employer want workers that look white/Hispanic......in some parts of the Country I am very sad to say that this could very well be true. But in the Hampton Roads area, absolutely not! Also you may like to know that there are plenty of students from Ghana, Nigeria, and Jamaica that come over as well. However, due to their high English levels most of them chose to take higher pay

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12 to an apartment- If the employer is providing housing and it is part of the job then the students are normally told up front before accepting the job all of the conditions and generally the sponsors will look into the housing to make sure that it is acceptable prior to agreeing to work with that employer. Now in some cases a few students will get together and they will pack in as many people into a apartment as they can, now is this legal, probably not by housing and fire code, but is this the sponsors fault or anyone else other than the students, NO. In some cases students are taken advantage of and targeted in which case they do need the help of outsiders/their sponsors but at other times they are young adults and need to be held accountable for their own actions.

Americans not being allowed or wanted overseas to work.........WRONG AGAIN..........there are outbound programs for Americans as well! In fact some sponsors that bring in the J-1's also happily send Americans abroad as well.

High school students not being hired because of this program..............I find this very hard to believe. The fact is that most American kids just do not have the family values or

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The Mob-Boss..........some sponsors DO NOT place students with staffing agencies for that exact reason that you are talking about. I find it very easy to believe that, that situation may be happening. But in order to make it stop..........the hotels along the ocean front as well as other businesses need to work directly with sponsors or work with more reputable staffing agencies, ones that employee locals as well as foreigners and do not specifically target the foreigners. The staffing agencies where 80% or more of their workers are foreigners are normally the ones that prey on the J-1 students. If the hotels would do that then they would put this guy out of business.

I do not know if this is the same man or not but for the past couple of years there has been a man that will hang out at the greyhound bus station and approach students as they are arriving, in some cases he is successful with getting the students to leave with him. The police are unable to do anything the students are all over the age of 18 and are adults if they chose to go with this man then they can.

12 to an apartment- If the employer is providing housing and it is part of the job then the students

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However, at the same time, if a students is not working where they are suppose to, or changes jobs/locations without notifying them (as required as a condition of their visa) then it is not possible to know there is something wrong unless the student reaches out to them.

If you run across a student that claims to be homeless or with no job, or at a job where they are being miss treated, encourage them to contact their sponsor! They will investigate the situation and depending on the what they find out will act appropriately.

For those of you who think they don't pay taxes..........wrong.........they have to apply for ssn and pay City, State, and Federal Taxes just like everyone else and file tax returns. The only taxes they don't pay is Medicare and social security because they are not citizens and can never collect them, so since they are exempt so is the employer when they work.

In some cases not only parents, but sisters, brothers, aunts, uncles may be saving up for years to give many of these students the experience of coming to America to experience what it is like to live and work here.

The Mob-Boss..........some sponsors DO NOT place students with staffin

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It also lists the dates that the students can work so this will prevent employers from allowing the students to remain working past their end dates. Yes a small number of the students do try to stay but if the employers would be more responsible and not allow them to work past the dates on their DS form then they will get the picture and will leave like they are suppose to!

This program is very well thought out and regulated very well by the State Department and Sponsors but people in areas where the program is used in large amounts need to be informed and the employers need to take responsibility as well and make sure they are asking the right questions and requiring the correct paperwork.

Businesses wanting to use the students need to use sponsors, the services of the sponsors to the employers are free. Employers never have to pay a sponsor for their services and if they are ever told differently then they should report that person/company. The sponsors are designated by the State Department for a reason. Most of them are willing to educate and answer community questions if asked. It is their job to make sure that their students are being paid legally and are working

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Most sponsors tell the students that they should expect to make enough to cover basic living expenses and should budget accordingly if they plan to do any traveling or want to take money home or make certain purchases.

Some employers will not use sponsors or staffing agencies they know the students are coming and they just wait for them to show up and pick and choose them as they walk in looking for work. What happens is then students talk to their friends who may be in other parts of the states and go oh, yeah I got 2 jobs this place is great you should come here and then the influx of unemployed students starts to happen.

Hiring students off of the street- The employers need to know what questions to ask. Ask them for a copy of their DS form this is the paper that states who the students sponsor is and the dates that they are legal to work. Then the employer should contact the sponsor and check to see if the student is still in good standing. Sometimes students will have their Visa's cancelled or Programs ended by the sponsor, when this happens they are ordered to leave the Country by the sponsor. If they do not comply them they become illegal and can not work. It also li

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make sure that they are a designated sponsor, chances are if they have a piece of paper ready for you to sign and have never spoke to you before they are not a designated sponsor.

Students being ripped off: All of these Countries have dozens in some cases hundreds of agencies trying to recruit students it is very competitive in most Countries there for if there happens to be 1 agency charging outrageous amounts they will not be in business very long if at all. Normally sponsors look very closely at the agencies that they partner with. When you run into a student and they are crying about spending $3000 to come here, before getting upset and outraged, find out the break down. How much was just the program? How much was the visa? How much was your plane ticket? What other costs were there? Does that include the $800 start up cash they are required to have? Some students buy plane tickets with just 1-3 days notice so yes it could cost that much. The students are aware of all of the program costs and pay them in full prior to ever entering the U.S. Most sponsors tell the students that they should expect to make enough to cover basic living expenses and should budget accordi

lets get a few things straight

For those of you who think that these kids come here with no money.......wrong.......they have to arrive with access to at least $800 to have money for food, rent, transportation before starting to get their paychecks. If they truly arrive with no money and no access to any they are in violation of their Visa and need to either call home for them to wire money or to return home.

It is a cultural exchange, an experience of a lifetime a way to learn and break down international barriers. Just think about how many people that may meet or have some type of interaction with these students that may never leave the U.S. maybe they have never left the City or State that they live in, for those people these students act as Cultural Ambassadors of sorts.

How much the program costs, you think that sponsors are getting rich from the students............then employers do your homework about where you are getting the students from. You need to work with designated sponsors only. There are many people who may walk in and ask you if you want students and get you to sign a piece of paper stating how many students you will take, make sure that they are a designated sponsor, chances are if the

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