The Virginian-Pilot
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NORFOLK
The ride was smooth. The passenger cars were packed. And the train ran more than an hour ahead of schedule.
Overall, Thursday's trip aboard restored vintage railcars was a grand introduction to the proposed revival of passenger rail service out of Harbor Park.
Sponsored by Norfolk Southern Corp. and hosted by the Hampton Roads Chamber of Commerce, more than 200 business, civic and government leaders boarded the train and rode 154 miles round-trip between Norfolk and Petersburg.
It was a taste of the service state rail officials expect to launch in less than three years to Richmond, Washington, D.C., and beyond.
The state has identified $93 million to make the railway improvements necessary to re-establish service. Since passenger rail service in South Hampton Roads ended in 1977, the closest trains are across the harbor in Newport News.
Jack Hornbeck, chamber president and CEO, said he hopes Thursday's event will generate enthusiasm for future passenger rail service.
Gloria Steadman of Bon Secours said she was inspired to take her grandchildren on a sightseeing trip to Washington via rail.
Betsi Radd, sales manager for the Holiday Inn Hotel and Convention Center, sees passenger trains as a way to build business.
"The barrier we most often hear about in the hotel industry is getting business from areas north of here... because of tunnel congestion," Radd said.
The future Amtrak passenger service won't have the same luxury amenities as Thursday's outing, which included a car dating back to 1911; a tall, glass-domed car with lounge seating; and a "theater car" with tiered theater-style seats facing the all-glass rear of the car.
Still, there will be one round-trip train daily, which is expected to increase to three once improvements are made to unclog congestion at the Appomattox River rail bridge.
The top speed would be 79 mph because it will share the track with freight trains. Passengers eventually would have what's known in the industry as a "one-seat ride" - a trip without having to change trains - as far as Boston.
Trains will operate out of a transportation center to be built at Harbor Park. Norfolk learned Wednesday that it did not win its bid for a federal stimulus grant; however, the city has $6 million to build the first phase, which will include a small train station, a bus transfer center, and covered connections to the Harbor Park light-rail station.
"It's disappointing to the city from an economic development standpoint, but it won't stop the trains from coming," said Thelma Drake, director of the Virginia Department of Rail and Public Transportation.
State and freight rail officials touted the route as ideal for passengers because much of it is straight, which allows trains to move at consistently higher speeds.
But first, improvements are needed that include upgrading some sections of track, enhancing the signal system and building more crossovers where trains can pass each other. Norfolk Southern operates 15 to 18 freight trains a day on the tracks between Norfolk and Petersburg.
John Edwards, Norfolk Southern's general director of passenger policy, said the reward for the railroad for allowing passenger trains on its tracks "is very, very small."
"We understand that passenger rail is coming back," he said. "In some ways, it helps us because it reduces congestion on the roads.... We need the entire transportation system to be fluid."
Cargo is often transported to trains or off-loaded from trains via trucks that use the roadways.
"Our experience in Virginia is that the state has a willingness to partner with us to get the job done right," Edwards said.
Naturally, there are challenges for the railroad.
"We're used to moving Nike shoes or computers or coal or corn," Edwards said. "Once we put passengers on the rail, there's a new liability risk."
An obstacle for the state is identifying operating funds for the service. Federal passenger-rail operating subsidies end in 2013. Drake said a state legislative committee is close to making a recommendation on how to fill the gap.
Drake is optimistic the South Hampton Roads service will be so successful it won't need an operating subsidy, similar to the Lynchburg-to-D.C. service that started last year.
Meanwhile, a separate planning process for higher-speed train service to South Hampton Roads is still under way. The region's enthusiasm for higher-speed rail, which would run at speeds of up to 110 mph, prompted the state to work on the conventional service.
Officials, however, have said it would take years to upgrade to higher-speed service because it requires separate passenger- and freight-train tracks.
Edwards said mixing the two "is like having a tractor on the interstate. It simply is not safe."
Debbie Messina, (757) 446-2588, debbie.messina@pilotonline.com

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hmmm
just wondering how many people for this project have ever bothered to take the Amtrak that already runs (and has for decades) out of Newport News
Passenger verses freight trains
With gasoline prices going up and up and our roads getting worse and worse, the idea of using the railroads for passenger service is looking better and better.
One of the biggest problems is with the infrastructure: freight trains beat the dickens out of rail lines because of their heavier cars. Because of this, the speed of trains is limited. Whereas slower speeds are fine for freight traffic, the higher speeds people want to see with passenger trains cannot be accomplished safely. The ultimate solution is to have separate tracks for freight and passenger trains. As it is, some sort of a compromise needs to be worked out between the two.
There is no compromise when it comes to safety
Get real, spend billions on rail, subsidized by big gov, then compromise on safety in terms of crossings, new and separate high speed track systems, pedestrian and vehicle overpasses, - end result disaster waiting to happen. Do it right or don't even think about it.
Wonderment
I was just wandering why they have to spend 93 million dollars for improvements when it is obvious since they made this trip, 1 hr ahead of schedule, successfully. Seems to me they simply implement service immediately and build the infrastructure only if the usage is high enough to warrant the expense. Leave it to the government to want to spend money on what may be a losing proposition. Implement now and improve with performance.
Just a guess
My guess is that they suspended commercial trains during this event. If you read carefully, the cost is to build more sections for trains to pass each other, thus improving the effiency of the service and allow for increased traffic.
Waterside as Transit hub
We have a "lost" building with Waterside, which seems could easily be reconfigured into a light rail, bus and railroad hub. HRT is looking for a downtown location to "hub" it's busses, Waterside is a great location on a main road already has traffic control to get in and out. Light rail: already is a block away on Atlantic Ave. should be no problem running a stub track down Atlantic Ave to Waterside. The route could go from Waterside to the Medical Center connecting most of the downtown hotels with the rail. bus and cruise terminals. Other trains could turn at MacArthur and head back to Newtown, no need for additional cars or operators. Passenger rail could be run either down Water St. to Waterside or behind Harbor Park (which direly needs to be torn out) along the river to the Esplanade to Waterside. Or down Water St. passed Dominion Tower, through the decrepid fountain along Waterside Dr. to Waterside. Another plus is that if passenger rail is a failure, as cruise lines were, we won't end up with another empty building along the water front. And cruise customers can rail in and walk to the cruise terminal if the business revives. Other tourists can either walk to hotels or take t
Great Idea (& not just because I've been saying it for years)
Waterside would make an excellent Grand Central Station and hub for ferry/bus/heavy rail/light rail station. And the current configuration is already nearly ideal for everything but rail (though a sheltered ferry dock would be nice). There were only a few reasons to put a train station next to Harbor Park: 1) It has a big parking lot which is usually mostly empty. 2) The city is hoping was presence will help redevelop the southern and eastern fringes of Downtown. 3) That's where they built one the better part of a century ago. 4) The tracks are already there.
At second glance, most of these reasons fall apart. 1) With regard to parking, Waterside already has a garage connected by a pedestrian bridge, and the Harbor Park lot and other downtown garages would still be just a short walk or a couple light rail stops away. 2) The redevelopment should have helped our chances with the federal grant, and the fact we didn't win shows just how iffy that prospect was for the near term. The downtown will grow when and where it's ready - ignoring the core for the sake of growing the tax base is how they keep getting into messes like this. 3) I'm all for respecting history when it makes
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3) I'm all for respecting history when it makes sense, but when the last Norfolk train station stood near that site, there wasn't an interstate highway interchange standing between it and downtown. Norfolk's plans to extend Tidewater and City Hall Drives under 264 and connect to the Harbor Park area will make sense eventually, but not yet. 4) I don't know if the heavy rail could be extended along the waterfront for more or less than the savings from reusing Waterside, but it makes sense for so many other reasons that it shouldn't matter even if there is a slight premium.
Ideally, the light rail would have been routed past Waterside in the first place, but Norfolk was looking for an excuse to replace their library and get the federal government to foot the bill for demolition costs, so that's what we're stuck with right now (never mind if that's where most of the overruns came from). But it's still close enough to walk, and free shuttle buses will work fine until ridership justifies a light rail spur or even a covered moving sidewalk to the Waterside station.
con't
take the light rail to the new hotels along Brambleton, go to Scope, Chrysler Hall, or the Mall. Seems we should take Budda to the Temple, opposed to building an entire new infrastructure to support an "iffy" passenger rail proposition. Let's face it, if it were profitable, NS would already be doing it.
A public service
It's not supposed to be profitable. We're not talking about a business venture, we're talking about a public service much like city buses, schools, police, roads, fire departments, etc..