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Experts: Bay had bipolar disorder, PTSD at time of arrest

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VIRGINIA BEACH

Untreated mental illness and a tumultuous childhood ultimately left Philip Bay out of touch with reality when he set out to kill at least 30 people at Landstown High School in April 2009, three expert witnesses testified Thursday in Circuit Court .

That, his lawyers say, prove that the 19-year-old defendant being tried for allegedly engineering the failed plot against his school was legally insane at the time.

Prosecutors continued to assert that Bay was a calculating manipulator who to some degree managed to fool the psychologist and two psychiatrists who evaluated him.

After three days of watching hours of homemade videos by Bay and two other teens accused in the plot, jurors listened Thursday as two licensed psychiatrists and a clinical psychologist detailed a bright and sensitive boy deeply affected by bullying and family dysfunction. Bay’s case will likely go to the jury for consideration today.

Jurors will be asked to decide whether Bay is guilty, not guilty, or not guilty by reason of insanity. If convicted, he could spend the rest of his life in prison . He would receive evaluations to determine whether he could return to society or required detention and treatment if found not guilty by reason of insanity.

Bay suffered from bipolar disorder and elements of post-traumatic stress disorder, or PTSD, child psychiatrist David Reid testified Thursday morning. The former was exacerbated by the antidepressant Prozac, which can push bipolar sufferers into manic states if not combined with a mood stabilizer, he said.

Bay was not prescribed a mood stabilizer until after his arrest in April 2009.

Bay’s father was emotionally and, at times, physically abusive – and eventually abandoned the boy, Reid testified. When Bay’s grandfather died when the boy was 6, Bay wanted to join him in heaven.

Those events, coupled with brutal bullying by classmates in elementary and middle school, contributed to PTSD, he said. Bay eventually built up “a tremendous amount of rage. You can almost think of it as a perfect storm.”

All three mental health experts told jurors that Bay believed he was an agent of God, who wanted him to attack Landstown with sawed-off shotguns and the pipe bombs and Molotov cocktails he concocted in his home.

“He was convinced that he had God on his side, and he was carrying out the will of God,” forensic psychiatrist Paul Mansheim testified. “The person does know what he’s doing and does know that it’s legally wrong but is unable to prevent himself from doing it because he’s psychotic.”

Mansheim and psychologist Weare Zwemer, who also testified Thursday, disagreed on whether Bay was driven by an “irresistible impulse,” a legal term used in an insanity defense.

Mansheim said he was.

Zwemer said Bay’s more than two years of plotting – documented in journals and hours of video the teen recorded – suggest he was not. “If there is premeditation, it would be very hard to prove irresistible impulse,” said Zwemer, who first met with the teenager in November 2009.

But Bay suffered from mental defects and believed it was his task to be the hand of God, Zwemer said, and “struggled with the idea that he had disobeyed God or let God down.”

Deputy Commonwealth’s Attorney Scott Lang insisted Bay told people what he thought they wanted to hear.

He expressed remorse for the plot in a note to one of his teachers seven months before he met with Zwemer, according to evidence.

Bay’s motive was revenge on a school he felt forced to attend and the students who had crossed him, Lang said. Bay had considered an insanity defense even before his arrest, based on papers found in his home. One regarding school shootings stated the importance of journals should a student shooter fail at suicide.

In video shown to jurors Bay intended to be viewed after his death, he says: “I didn’t do it because I got picked on and snapped. All you analysts and psychologists out there ... it wasn’t a disorder, it wasn’t the Prozac ... I want them dead. I want their families dead. I want them dead, OK?”

In a phone call with his mother from jail, he tells her that he wants his lawyer to have him committed to a mental institution because it is “a home away from home” and “will help my defense.”

Conflicting stories was a symptom of his mental illness, Mansheim said. “I think he thinks he can trick and fool people, but he’s not particularly good at it.”

Lang argued that Bay had done it two years before.

In a letter dated Oct. 5, 2007, Bay’s psychologist wrote a letter that he was fit to return to school after being caught with a hoax explosive device because he expressed no intent to harm himself or anyone else.

Bay already was stockpiling weapons at that time, Lang said.

Kristin Davis, (757) 222-5131, kristin.davis@pilotonline.com

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The bad part is

The bad part about this is, if he had succeeded and some parent found out who did it, and gave him what he deserved then that parent would be the one in trouble for euthanizing a rabid animal. I think the justice system is a little backwards here. The evidence against this kid is overwhelming above and beyond all else he PLANNED this, of that there is no doubt!!!!!!!!!
I'm so tired of hearing "He's a product of his enviornment" or "He had a rough childhood"
He's a spoiled lil brat who didn't get his way so he decided he was going to eliminate the people who denied him or picked on him.
Life is tough, if you can't handle it put a gun to YOUR OWN head and relieve the situation. Not put a gun to someone elses head.

Another court room drama

Another court room drama case. I think a lot of these judges and lawyers watch too much TV.

SAD

It's really sad to keep hearing about all this drama everyday in the news. My sub-division is right down the street from where this young man resides. My daughter was a student at Landstown when this conspiracy was being developed. My sister is bipolar and I've witnessed her get to her lowest points at times, but at no time did I ever seen or heard my sister plot such devastation. I understand that this young man may be sick, I'm no medical professional, but, do tell me, what would've happened had he gotten the opportunity to carry this heinous act out. What would alot of people be saying to me if my daughter and other people's children had gotten hurt or dead. What would you be telling us then? Please lock him up and get him the help he needs.

What?

"Samli"? Please be better informed before commenting.

all of this could have been solved if

we didn't live in such a PC society.

"your dad died...awwwww....have some pills, its not your fault you're acting like a toolbox".

50 years ago, a kid his age would have been the head of the household at that point. He would have gotten a job or joined the service to support his mother. Instead, we live in an age where kids are coddled, and nothing is their fault. when all he really needed all along is a swift kick in his posterior.

"Life's hard, wear a ....... helmet."--Denis Leary

Attorney's name

Why is it during trial articles, the Pilot never publishes the Lawyers name?

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The lead defense attorney is Broccoletti. The Pilot has published that many times.

Because

they have to become verified first.

Did you know that pediatric

Did you know that pediatric bipolar patients are known to cycle several times a day instead of over days and weeks like adults? This may give credence to his not being able to stop himself. Can you imagine feeling this way? Manic-depressed-manic every hour, all the emotions and hormones of a teenager, being bullied because you don't act 'normal' which further fuels your disorder. Not saying it's an excuse, but some people break. It happens. Makes you wonder why we just don't be nice to people. You never know when someone will snap. Do you want to cause it or be their enemy when it happens?

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"Gimme a break" ~ Nell Carter

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