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Enhanced pat-downs divide Norfolk airport travelers

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Kathy Blamo was anxious about what she'd encounter at the security checkpoint at Norfolk International Airport on Monday on her way to catch her Indianapolis-bound plane.

"It's disturbing," she said. "They can put their hands all on your breasts.

"I think I'm like most people - I'd feel violated if they go to those depths. Why do I have to have my body touched like that? I don't care that it's not a man - I don't want no woman touching me there either."

Still, Blamo is conflicted.

"I just want to get home safely on the ground," she said. "People are doing some crazy things, trying to blow up planes, so we need the protection.

"How far do we go? I don't know."

It's a dilemma that Blamo and many other passengers at Norfolk International said they're struggling with.

The Transportation Security Administration recently launched new passenger screening procedures that have drawn mixed reactions across the nation, including sparking traveler protests and lawsuits.

At some airports - not Norfolk or Newport News/Williamsburg - passengers must pass through full-body scanners that produce a virtually naked image. Those who refuse are subject to a more rigorous pat-down than normal that includes officials touching clothed genital areas.

At Norfolk and Newport News/Williamsburg airports, passengers are subject to the enhanced pat-downs if they set off metal detectors or if they're selected for additional screening, said Lauren Gaches, a TSA spokeswoman.

Government officials apparently are struggling with the new regulations, too.

With the Thanksgiving holiday travel rush about to start, the White House said Monday that the government will re-evaluate the new security rules while taking into account the public's concerns.

Officials are "desperately" trying to balance actions that maximize security and minimize invasiveness, said Robert Gibbs, President Barack Obama's spokesman.

Several men at the Norfolk airport preferred to joke about the pat-downs.

"Wouldn't bother me if a young lady was doing my pat-down," said Walter Chandler of Hampton.

He noted, however, that the pat-down could also be problematic, "Could make my blood pressure go up."

Rick Witt, who was returning to his home near Stockton, Calif., said, "As many people that fly and that they check, you'd have to have an extremely awesome body for somebody to get their jollies."

Kidding aside, Chandler, Witt and a number of others were accepting of the pat-downs if they result in more secure planes.

"As long as they're trained professionals, I don't care," said Carol Harbaugh of Minnesota.

Duke Harbaugh said: "It's a very good thing. I don't want to die."

Lisa Williams of Virginia Beach said she wouldn't like being patted down, "but I wouldn't complain because I like being alive.

"I'd like to breeze through security, but I don't want the person in front of me or the person behind me breezing through," she said.

Witt suggested offering two levels of security: flights that subject everyone to maximum screening and flights with none.

"You go on that plane where no one is frisked and see if you feel safe," he said.

TSA officials would not talk about how the new security measures are working locally.

Wayne Shank, executive director of the Norfolk airport, said the airport administrative office, which has no authority over passenger screening, fielded a couple complaints when the new system started, but none since.

"If we were getting a bunch of complaints we'd be alarmed, but we're not," he said. "Based on what we're seeing here, the TSA is being as accommodating as possible."

Debbie Messina, (757) 446-2588, debbie.messina@pilotonline.com

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hmmm...

i'm not flying until they stop the stupidity. it was so nice flying in the past before tsa - those were truly the friendly skies. today though, not so much. might as well hit jail intake for the same cheap pat down thrills although i think in the jail they don't burst you with t-rays against the largest organ in your body and then try to convince you it is safe. the more people who stop flying the more this will end. you can bet there are some rich people who will be losing money big time if the airports go under so they'll be figuring out a better way when their profits hit the skids on the downward spiral to poordom! the power is with the people to end the madness so exercise your power and don't fly and watch this madness die...

So let's sum this up!

From the 116 comments below mine:
-No one has the right to fly, therefore whatever egregious stuff has to be suffered in order to fly is okay (if you don't like it, don't go).
-Therefore we will suffer indignity upon indignity as the camel gets its nose under the tent of normative human dignity and shreds the tent walls bit by bit.
-Next it will be train travel--after all, you don't have to go.
-Then subways and buses (remember, every Norfolk-sized city is pushing mass transit). And ferries in cities with water. Because, you don't have to cross from Portsmouth to Norfolk by boat. Even if you gave up your car to live on the Portsmouth waterfront.
-Next, random traffic stops.
-Just stay home. You have no right to work, after all.

Food for thought

What sort of message does this screening send to children? One day they are told to tell a parent/teacher/policeman/etc if someone touches them in a private area of the body, then the next they are having those same private areas touched in public by someone in "authority".

Whatever happened to the Trusted Traveler Program?

Weren't we supposed to be able to apply for a biometric ID card from the airlines which would allow us to bypass this stuff?

The idea was supposed to be that you established your identity and allowed a background check which would certify you were and American citizen and not affiliated with any terrorist group.

Sort of reverse profiling, establishing a 'safe' group which could be passed quickly through security, allowing the TSA to concentrate on the unknowns.

Most business travelers would qualify and make up most of the weekday passengers, greatly reducing the need for scanning and other inspections.

This Needs to Go To The Supreme Court Quickly

This is a clear constitutional conflict and I strongly support the constitution. One minute I know randomly searching everyone, who may include 80 year old grand moms and cub scouts (I’m okay with searching 80 year old cub scouts) violates the 4th amendment. The next minute I know concentrating the efforts against those appear to be Muslim (profiling) appears to violate the 14th. I also know that doing nothing is not an option. Time for the court to earn their money.

Trip cancelled

My wife and I have canceled our Christmas trip to Florida. I hope they get this mess under control before we have to cancel our summer vacation.

For Your Health Safety

If you are traveling and opt for the "pat-down" search, MAKE SURE you tell the TSA Agent to change their latex gloves before they begin your pat-down! TSA's gloves do get in contact with skin from "personal" areas!!!!

Why Would A Scanner Ever Catch a Bomber?

There are hundreds of airports that don’t have them. Would it matter to a terrorist what the last city he saw was before he blew himself up?

one thing is certain

our enemy surely has many U.S. Americans wrapped around the axel, and acting like a bunch of nuts.

conspiracy theories aside...

(although I'm getting a kick out of theories that TSA policies are specifically designed to sexually harrass travelers or provide sexual thrills for the screeners...priceless!)

Everybody who enters an airport screening area consents to search; nobody is required to enter an airport screening area.

TSA has a long way to go in terms of training a professional security force but these voluntary searches and screenings are here to stay. I welcome them, but if they become bothersome, I'm comforted by the knowledge that I can avoid them if I so choose.

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