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Group angry after Confederate flag plan rejected in Lexington

Posted to: News Virginia

By Duncan Adams

The Civil War ended in 1865, but a skirmish about the display of the losing side's flags returned Thursday to Lexington, burial ground for both Gen. Robert E. Lee and Gen. Thomas "Stonewall" Jackson.

A local group of the Sons of Confederate Veterans wanted to fly Confederate flags from lampposts on downtown streets from Jan. 10 to 15 to celebrate Lee-Jackson Day, a state holiday set for Jan. 14.

Lexington City Council weighed the request Thursday night and voted unanimously in favor of a different plan.

The council's response stirred a vigorous protest from Brandon Dorsey, the commander for Camp 1296 of the Stonewall Brigade of the Sons of Confederate Veterans. He said city officials continue to demonstrate "a longtime antagonism against" public display of symbols of the Confederacy. Camp 1296 has about 60 to 70 members, Dorsey said.

Specifically, the council ruled Thursday that the flags requested by the camp can fly from Jan. 10 to Jan. 13 but not on Jan. 14 or 15 -- when flags of the United States and Virginia will line the streets for Lee-Jackson Day on Friday and the Martin Luther King Jr. federal holiday Monday.

The brigade plans to fly three flags, Dorsey said, including the Second National Confederate Flag, Lee's Headquarters Flag and a period state flag. He said the camp, as a gesture of good will, did not ask to fly the Confederate Battle Flag, which seems to stir the strongest negative reactions.

Dorsey's reaction to the council's alternative plan included a charge that officials continue to exhibit "prejudice against the flying of Confederate flags." He described the council's response as a cagey way to skirt a permanent federal injunction issued in 1993 that prohibits the city from denying the rights of individuals or groups to display Confederate flags.

In a memo dated Nov. 23, City Attorney Laurence Mann warned the council that the brigade's request "will generate some conflict" because of the 1993 case.

But Lexington Mayor Mimi Elrod said Friday the council's decision followed a standing, if apparently unwritten, policy about flying state and U.S. flags on state and federal holidays.

"We're aware of our duties under the injunction, but we have not discriminated against the symbols of the Confederacy," Elrod said.

Mann told the council he had not found a record of formal action on a flag policy. But he said it appears there was informal approval at some time of flying only state and U.S. flags on state and federal holidays.

City Manager Jon Ellestad said he believes the policy has been in effect "since around 2002."

Dorsey said the brigade suggested a compromise Thursday that would have allowed weekend placement of Confederate flags only in the first couple of blocks leading from the cemetery where Jackson is buried. He said the council rejected that alternative.

Elrod declined to comment when asked whether officials worried that prominently flying the flags of the Confederacy from lampposts on downtown streets might reflect poorly on the city.

She said the council's decision was not motivated by "feelings of discrimination or hostility."

Elrod said the city has allowed Washington and Lee University and the Virginia Military Institute to fly school flags downtown on occasion but that both also have been precluded from displaying them along city streets on state and federal holidays.

The Rev. Rayfield Vines, president of the Virginia State Conference of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People, said he believes the city council acted appropriately by limiting the prominent public display of Confederate flags to the days preceding Lee-Jackson Day and the Martin Luther King Jr. holiday.

"There are certain symbols that bring back divisiveness," Vines said. "We have enough things to divide us. We need things to bring us together."

The flags of the Confederacy remind many of old wounds, he said.

Dorsey disagreed. And he said those who contend the flags represent hate and racism are misinformed.

Instead, he said, they represent sacrifice, heritage and history, including family history.

"We're a history group," Dorsey said. "We're all de-scendants of the soldiers who fought this war. Our ances- tors bled and died for this state, at its request, and ought to be remembered and honored."

He said Lexington's demographics have changed and that the city's politics lean now toward "progressive, Democratic, liberal." He suggested many tourists who visit Lexington are drawn by its rich Civil War history.

The brigade will fly the flags on the days specified by the council, Dorsey said. He is not sure how many flags will be displayed along downtown streets but believes there are more than 70 brackets available.

Dorsey said the Sons of Confederate Veterans might file another lawsuit against the city.

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I got a better idea...

Just hand out objective history books to everyone so they can decide for themselves what the confederate army was fighting for. Hint, it just wasn't about states' rights.

Certain citizens of this state will never move forward if they keep looking in a rear-view mirror.

The war's over, recognize the sacrifice of all lost and honor their memory. I don't believe hanging flags of our defeated ancestors suits that purpose.

The Winners Write the History

You know if the Continental Army had lost (and it was a squeaker at times), we would be sitting over tea and crumpets listening to people call them traders and disparaging people who wished to honor their memory.

Won't be Visiting Lexington Anytime Soon

I can understand the legal argument; let them sue. We have enough monuments to these men. Unfortunately, these brilliant generals and the hundreds of thousands who died for the Confederacy were on the wrong side of morality and history. States Rights Avenue still leads to slave trading blocks from Montgomery to Texas to bleeding Kansas and what could've been in New Mexico, had plantation owners and politicians without honor had their way. It wasn't about agriculture vs. industry, but white supremacy and living off the backs of humans treated like beasts instead of regular workers, as long as it could be done. The people still "yee-haw"-ing at Gettysburg reenactments refuse to get it.

Why not???

Why can`t they fly the flag?? It is part of history......
come on people
This is America, Home of the Brave and Free
I am sick and tired of somebody always crying something offends them.
I will tell you, I am offended about this.
Fly that Flag,it is part of American History, it happened, it happened a long time ago, time to move on, it is 2010 now.

Why Not

Very simple answer here. One doesn't usually fly or celebrate the colors of the losers. They were on the wrong side both morally and legally and they lost. In fact, without too much of a stretch, they were actually traitors and all to protect the "right" to own other people and enslave them. That's the sum total of it....so they should
not have the right to fly the flag at all. To me, it is akin to flying and honoring the flag of any enemy our country has fought.

And, you're right.....its 2010, get over it. You (they) lost!

Not questioning motives

I won't begin questioning the motives of the Sons of the Confederacy to display their flags. But there is no ignorance about what their flags symbolize. While the Sons may be proud of their ancestors' courage and their heritage, the fact remains that the South thankfully lost the Civil War and the Confederacy stood for some pretty repulsive ideas. They were willing to break up the country to ensure the agricultural economy supported by slave labor ramained. They were willing to kill other Americans for this idea. Imagine how things would have been different today if they had been successful in this rebellion. Many southerners like myself do not want annual reminders of this heritage. It is nothing to be proud of.

Racism is still alive

Racism is still alive in the South in the guise of "heritage." Pretty pathetic really.

valiantly, courageously, and bravely

The men and women of the confederacy will always be remembered for how valiantly, courageously, and bravely they fought.

They acted quite valiantly when they were defending an ugly and despicable form of oppression. Their strength and courage was never questioned by the millions of human beings who were subjugated by the unforgivable way of life they were fighting with every ounce of themselves to continue.

They were so courageous during their fighting they almost won, They nearly succeeded in destroying a nation founded on the principles of equality and fairness. They nearly ran their flag up atop of the white house and declared that now they had twice as much land and needed to double or triple the number of people they would need to enslav

for serious ?

hey brother, is this comment for real ?
The Confederate States never aspired to take over the North.. they wanted to separate from the North, but were forcefully held in a Union they no longer wanted to be a part of.. If the Confederacy supposedly had a monopoly on the institution of slavery, then why were slave-holding border states welcomed into the Union ranks (ie Kentucky, Maryland)?
You're entitled to your opinion of Confederate symbols, but take note, if you allow & encourage other's symbols to be demonized & taken from them, what makes you think your cultural symbols may not be next.. there r already environments in America where our US flag is being marginalized too. peace.

You forgot one

They were also fighting against the idea that the Fed should be able to dictate policy to a State. It is a fight that continues to this day. I am sure that you accidentaly forgot to mention that part.

In the future, if you are going to relate history, please make sure you relate ALL of it, not just the part that suits you.

And that bit of advice is from a Northerner.

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