The Virginian-Pilot
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While the Navy issued no formal word Monday as to whether Capt. Owen Honors will retain his position as commander of the aircraft carrier Enterprise, military experts said his Navy career is almost certainly over.
The Virginian-Pilot reported Saturday that during his tenure as second-in-command aboard the Norfolk-based carrier, Honors produced and broadcast for the crew a series of short videos that included sexual jokes, subordinates parading in drag, anti-gay remarks, and sailors pretending to masturbate and shower together.
The newspaper published an edited version of one of the videos on its website over the weekend. Since then, the video has been broadcast by numerous national and international media outlets.
While some have criticized Honors since the videos became public, others - especially retired and active-duty sailors - have rallied in his support.
On ABCs "Good Morning America" show today, retired Gen. Wesley Clark, the former supreme commander of NATO, called the videos "incompatible with the climate of command we are trying to establish in the armed forces."
U.S. Fleet Forces Command has launched an investigation into the videos. Other media outlets were reporting late Monday that Honors could be relieved of command as soon as today, but the Navy said no official call had been made.
Military experts said it's unlikely Honors will stay, given that officers have been removed for far less in the past.
"This is very serious," said Eugene Fidell, a law professor at Yale University and president of the National Institute of Military Justice. "After watching the videos, I don't see how he could stay. He runs a warship, not a fraternity house."
Ward Carroll, the editor of Military.com and a retired Navy aviator who flew with Honors, said, "Unfortunately, he pushed buttons that you just can't push."
The Navy isn't saying how long its investigation might take, but authorities don't have unlimited time to decide Honors' future: The Enterprise and its 6,000 sailors and Marines are slated to deploy overseas this month.
"Especially given the deployment, I expect he'll be removed sooner rather than later," Fidell said.
The Navy hasn't announced plans to delay the deployment, and Fidell doubts it will. "They'll put someone else in his place and they'll go," he said.
Honors will probably face a mast, or a Navy disciplinary hearing before an admiral, before being forced to retire, Fidell said. Honors' rank may be reduced, he added.
Honors made the videos with the help of subordinates in 2006 and 2007, while he was the ship's executive officer, or XO. He returned as commander in May.
The videos were part of something Honors called "XO Movie Night." In them, he indicates they're meant to entertain the crew.
The Virginian-Pilot obtained three of the videos last week. Sailors who were aboard the Enterprise at the time said they were Honors' ideas and that he made most of them while the ship was deployed. They were shown roughly once a week on closed-circuit shipwide television.
It's unclear why the videos recently resurfaced, although one sailor who spoke to the newspaper said they remain on a shipboard computer.
Military.com's Carroll said the biggest question is whether anyone other than Honors will be disciplined for the movies - namely, his superiors at the time.
A Fleet Forces spokesman, Cmdr. Chris Sims, said the Navy's investigation isn't limited to Honors. Among the questions the inquiry seeks to answer is whether Honors was reprimanded appropriately four years ago, Sims said.
The Navy has acknowledged that Honors' bosses were aware of the videos; they told him in early 2007 to stop making them, the Navy said.
At least one video that includes anti-gay remarks and officers pretending to masturbate was made after July of that year, according to Honors' comments in it.
Honors has not responded to requests for an interview. Neither has the Enterprise's then-commanding officer, Larry Rice, now a rear admiral assigned to the Norfolk-based Joint Forces Command. Rear Adm. Raymond Spicer and Vice Adm. Daniel Holloway, who commanded the Enterprise carrier strike group during Honors' time as XO, could not be reached.
A Facebook page set up for Honors' supporters had more than 1,500 members as of Monday evening. In comments on the page, users argue that the videos are harmless and that Honors was right to use humor and levity to boost the crew's morale during long, difficult deployments.
"You don't know that kind of constant pressure until you've been there," said J. Tyler Ballance, a retired Navy commander who captained an anti-mine ship in the 1990s. "This is the kind of guy who keep spirits up no matter what."
Others noted that making humorous videos is a common practice during carrier deployments, and that XOs often record messages for the crew.
But Fidell, of the National Institute of Military Justice, said Honors' videos - at the least the ones that contain anti-gay remarks and sailors mimicking masturbation - are something very different.
"To say that you need to create this kind of material in order for the ship to be happy - that's just not a valid argument," he said. "This is so far off any standard for acceptable behavior for someone in his position."
A handful of sailors who were assigned to the Enterprise when the videos were being shown told The Pilot last week that some crew members raised concerns about them and were brushed off. In at least two of the videos, Honors admits they drew complaints.
A female sailor told the newspaper she and a number of other women on board were offended by their content.
In the Navy's most recent statements about the videos, it called them "clearly inappropriate."
"The Navy does not endorse or condone these kinds of actions," the statement said. "Those in command... are charged to lead by example and are held accountable for setting the proper tone and upholding the standards of honor, courage and commitment that we expect sailors to exemplify."
The Associated Press contributed to this report.
Corinne Reilly, (757) 446-2949, corinne.reilly@pilotonline.com

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at what cost
CAPT Honors has been sacraficed in the name of politial correctness.... who is next???
Ship of misery
As you walk aboard aircraft carrier Enterprise Iam sure the atmosphere now aboard that ship will smack you in the face. Welcome to the ship of misery, Rules include, no joking, no smiling, no laughter. Iam sure when Captain honors was aboard the experience would have been a fun place of work.
it is pathetic. Too sad to talk about, to find myself here arguing over a man who just tried to lighten up the mood aboard that ship for the benefit of the guys onboard i find it hard to believe this has really happened. its a really sad day to see this happen to this poor guy. And its really Wrong. iam sure he deserves a bit more respect than what i have seen him given so far. its turning into a really depressing world we are living in really it is.
Excessive rules
I can not believe what i am reading. i cant believe some people are serious about this, you saying no1 in a proffesional position is allowed to have a sense of humor. the best thing to brighten up peoples spirits is humor.
what is wrong with the world we live in when we are ridiculing people for having fun. Dont you see how wrong that is. Is the man not allowed to be funny. the videos are not bad at all, am sure he didnt just walk into this job, the man obviously worked for many years to be where he is today, and all that is taken away from him because he made ! a funny video ! i like his videos there funny.there hardly x rated or anything, ive seen worse content on tv. Nice to see the guy is human he deserves alot better iam sure.
Good Riddance
This guy would have been fired much sooner in ANY other work environment. There's no excuse for saying that the military should be the stronghold for racism, bigotry, sexism.
example
The people who are supporting Captain Honors should be ashamed of themselves. He is the captain of a ship and he should be setting a positive example for his sailors. Keep in mind it is a work place and his behavior was not very professional.
WHY NOW?
What's your real agenda here VP?
This story was growing hair on it and you bring it up some 6 years after the fact?
Tell the readers what the real agenda is please.
Sharing the blame
To add to my first statment it needs to be added that the Navy said the video was not exceptable now, and it would not have been exceptable back then. So if this man is to be held accountable for his actions back then, so should anyone else's lack of actions back then also. Because if we are firing him for a lack of judgement. Why are we not firing the others for their lack of judgement also?
Sharing the blame/pain, puting a new light on this.
I see people wanting this man fired for this video. The following needs to come to light, this man was XO of the ship back then. What did his boss the Skipper do back then? Answer Nothing! He needs to loss his job he has now because of his lack of action then (don't tell me he didn't know of/if not watch the video). The same is said of his CO's at the times Boss, He's on the same Ship & would of known about it to. Now lets move to the people who allowed him to CO the Big "E". When moved up in the Navy to command your cheched to see if you can command. Don't tell me they didn't know about the videos because they check everything. They need held responsable also. Cut no slack on any of these people either, remember Tailhook anyone? Anyone?
Naval Officer by John Paul Jones
Qualifications of a Naval Officer
Written by John Paul Jones
It is by no means enough that an officer of the Navy should be a capable mariner. He must be that, of course, but also a great deal more. He should be as well a gentleman of liberal education, refined manners, punctilious courtesy, and the nicest sense of personal honor.
He should be the soul of tact, patience, justice, firmness, and charity. No meritorious act of a subordinate should escape his attention or be left to pass without its reward, even if the reward is only a word of approval. Conversely, he shouldn’t be blind to a single fault in any subordinate, though at the same time, he should be quick and unfailing to distinguish error from malice, thoughtlessness from incompe
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John Paul, who changed his name to J P Jones was at one time under investigation for the murder of one of his crewmen. Also, there were allegations that he engaged in sexual misconduct at some point in his life. He spent a lot of time running from his glorious past. Served time in the Russian navy (that alone makes me wonder about him and his honor). I say to all the real warriors in our Navy and other armed services, the time will come when most of these folks clamoring for Captain Honor's head will plead for men like him. Old George Patton better be glad he lived in a different era. So should we.