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In Portsmouth, pay personal property taxes or get the boot

Posted to: Local Government News Portsmouth

PORTSMOUTH

Roy Black eased his Cadillac past a green car parked in front of Walmart.

The laptop mounted on Black's front seat scanned the parked car's license plate, flashed red and sounded an alarm. They had found another one - another car whose owner hadn't paid property taxes.

Jerry Tucker hopped out of Black's passenger seat and knelt next to the suspect car as the confused driver opened her window. "I've never heard of such a thing!" the driver kept repeating as Tucker explained the overdue bill. Black took out an orange metal boot and affixed it to her front tire. This car wouldn't be going anywhere until the city got its tax money.

"It's a nice car," Black said, sizing up the Pontiac G6. "It just wasn't important to them to pay their taxes. I'll tell you what - 15 minutes ago, it became real important to pay their taxes. It moved to the top of their priority list."

In mid-January, Portsmouth Treasurer Jimmy Williams began using Black's firm to catch the owners of some 5,500 cars in the city who are more than six months overdue on their personal property taxes.

The overdue bills left Portsmouth out about $1.5 million in revenue in 2010, Williams said.

It's a problem that plagues all Virginia cities: The collection of personal property taxes routinely lags behind real estate tax collections. So Williams has enlisted the services of a private company to scan license plates for overdue accounts.

"I've got a million and a half out there I've got to get," Williams said of the money. "They've had opportunities to come in and pay or do payment plans. Sometimes that doesn't work, so we're going to this. It's our last resort."

Using high-tech cameras mounted to the trunk of the car, employees of Black's Virginia Auction Co. can scan thousands of license plates an hour. They drive through Portsmouth eight hours a day, winding through parking lots and trolling suburban streets seeking out deadbeat drivers.

Portsmouth isn't the first locality to employ scanners - both Hampton and Isle of Wight County use them - but soon, they may become a common sight in Hampton Roads. Black says he is in talks with two other local treasurer's offices, including Suffolk's, and may start collection patrols in other cities in 60 days.

The municipalities don't pay for the work, but Black's company gets a 20 percent cut of the taxes brought in.

And they're not having a hard time finding delinquents.

In a little more than a week, the process in Portsmouth netted more than 30 vehicles. One taxpayer who owed $6,000 on four cars and work trucks hadn't paid taxes for more than two years, Williams said.

On a drive though the city Thursday afternoon, the green Pontiac at Walmart was one of two overdue accounts Black and Tucker found in just over an hour.

The woman's father, who owned the Pontiac, arrived grumbling about the situation. The twosome pulled out cell phones to try to find a relative to lend money.

Tucker knelt down and looked the woman in the eye. He'd give them some time, he said, to find money and get to the treasurer's office before he called a tow truck. The family had about an hour.

"We're still an extension of their office. It's still about customer service," Tucker said. If the family could get to the treasurer's office and pay the $400 bill - overdue for more than a year - Tucker would take off the boot.

"We're not Dog the Bounty Hunter," he said. "We're not the repo guy."

But they wouldn't leave booted cars in parking lots to be vandalized, he said. Tucker and Black left the pair to sort it out and pulled through other business lots. Ten minutes later in the parking lot of a nearby Walgreens, the laptop siren sounded again, this time on a gray Nissan Sentra.

As Tucker started filling out paperwork and verifying the car's identification number, Black waited until the owner appeared.

"How much do I owe?" the owner asked.

"I don't know - that's between you and the treasurer," Black responded. The seizure notice was already taped to the man's windshield.

Tucker arranged for a taxi to take the Sentra owner home. The taxi bill would be added to his final tab.

"It's unfair," the owner said. "I'm a poor citizen. This is the way they're going to collect? By taking my car? It's bad business."

He did not give his name.

"The moral behind the whole story," Black said as he drove away, "is pay your taxes."

Meghan Hoyer, (757) 446-2293, meghan.hoyer@pilotonline.com

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Taxes 3

And on top of it all yeah I pay my taxes to benefit her, everyone else like her that take advantage of the system, the politicians, and so on... But I will be stopping soon. There is a lot of countries where we are not taxed like slaves, forced to redistribute our earnings, and to have our rights abused. Best part is that while I am collecting my retirement check it will be taxed free since I will be living out of this screwed up country.

Taxes 2.

And all the comments about poor people. Here's one for you. I was in Walmart last night to purchase food for the week. I for example bought 10lbs. of hamburger meat, Chicken, etc. What I can afford. The lady in front of me had two carts and as I was standing behind her I counted over 120 dollars worth of steak and pork chops. Do you know how she paid for her groceries. EBT card and wic. I scrap by making 45K a year and have to eat hamburger and chicken while I have to pay all these taxes so she and her family can eat steak. Do you know what really pissed me off is that I had to walk around her while she was loading her groceries into the 2012 Dodge Durango. How do I know the year? Because I work on them for a living.

Taxes?

The simple thing to this discussion is enough of the taxes. Why should we as citizens have to pay taxes when we purchase a vehicle. That's sales tax. It goes to the state and the locality. 2nd we pay taxes in the form of dmv fees when we register the vehicle and then every year after. Then we pay personal property taxes every year after all for the same vehicle. Once its bought and taxes are collected it should be done with. Does everyone realize that a few years ago this personal property was supposed to go away. Come on people the cure to these issues is to reduce the size of the government. Cut back on government spending. Put the power back in the citizens hands and not the politicians. A fair tax is the only way to go. Tax common ite

First: There was a open bid

First: There was a open bid for this contract. Mr. Black was the lowest bid. Second: The company does NOT own 5500 boots. That would be ridiculous. I'm sure the only people complaining are the people who owe money. If you pay and stay current this is not a problem. If everone pays their share, taxes would go down and this would not even be an issue. PAY YOUR TAXES or don't buy that Cadillac Escalade you can't afford. EASY!!

Ok....

First off.. The city isn't paying this company 20%. The taxpayer pays it when he settles his bill to get his car.

Second... Portsmouth has no land for expansion. 50% of the land is government owned. No taxes. Portsmouth has the most churches of any locality in the Commonwealth. No taxes.

I have had problems in the past and when my tax bill came due if I was unable to pay it in full, I contacted the Treasurer's office. They worked out a plan for me that was affordable and I took care of my obligation. Yes, my obligation for city services such as Police & Fire/rescue as well as trash pickup, etc.

I've been in line in the Treasure's office. Almost everyone of these deadbeats cry "I never get a bill."

Please cry me a river!

Sounds like a good program but

why limit it to Wal-Mart? There are several city-owned parking garages that should be scanned. Reserved parking spaces should be scanned first! While you are at it, make a pass through Olde Towne shopping district, Food Lions, Farm Fresh and TCC. Since we are paying the contractor to accomplish this task he should be required to systematically scan the entire city. With the current technology and great profit margin it should not take long.

guess if the story said he

guess if the story said he pulled into a "foodlion parking lot", you would have said, why limit it to foodlion?,

Big Picture...

What many here are failing to see is the big picture. Hundreds, if not thousands of government entities throughout this nation are in debt. Their compassion and wasteful ways have outpaced their revenues. Cities are tightening down and it's only going to get worse, much worse. If a city's books show $1.5 million owed, yet uncollected, then who can blame them for taking strict, yet legal, action to collect on that debt.

What's amazing to me is how many yahoos on here are taking the city to task when these tax delinquents have already been warned multiple times.

Again, it's only going to get tighter.

Think Before You Sink

Most of America's corporate C.E.O.'s drive $35,000 cars or $40,000 suv's. Though we have income tax in Virginia, we also have a sales tax and a car tax. Sales taxes are good for those who really won't save and car taxes are not so intended for the wealthy who drive $25,000 cars but for the disenfranchised that drive $50,000+ cars if you really don't think about it. Wear your money, drive your money, spend your money. "B, Double-E, Double-R-U-N!"

Pay up or park it...

Just pay your damn taxes. I hate it as much as you do. No, I actually hate it more because I actually do pay mine.

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