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Not everyone is so optimistic, especially with the budget-cutting ax already falling in Hampton Roads.

“These are not easy decisions,” said Charles A. Schue III, president and CEO of UrsaNav Inc. in Chesapeake. “No matter what they decide, somebody in the United States is going to get hurt.”

Among other tasks, UrsaNav helps maintain and service the workhorse navigational radar systems used on most ships in the Navy and Coast Guard.

Schue and another Coast Guard vet established Ursa­Nav about seven years ago when they bought the East Coast operations of a California company.

Now with about 100 employees and annual revenues in the $20 million to $30 million range, UrsaNav has positioned itself in the defense sector as a product and service provider focused on maintaining and modernizing existing systems, sometimes referred to as “legacy systems,” Schue said. Its employees travel to vessels around the world to do repairs, make adjustments and train crew members.

Losing any contract would have a dramatic effect on Ursa­Nav.

“Large defense contractors have the ability to recover from losing 500, 1,000 or 1,500 people; as public corporations, they’re big enough to absorb that,” Schue said. “Small, typically privately held businesses don’t have that big a footprint; there’s much more of a drastic effect. The impact on small businesses is significant.”

Service-contracting companies that provide engineering, maintenance and information-technology services are likely to be more vulnerable to defense cutbacks, said Cindy M. Walters, director of Old Dominion University’s Government Sponsored-Industry Assistance Programs.

The Pentagon already is working to bring back under its roof work that it “outsourced” to businesses over the past 15 years, so “you don’t have as many contracts,” said Walters, who helps local firms get federal contracting work.

“My biggest concern is that we have this somewhat of a perfect storm going on,” she said. “For me, the foregone conclusion would be a cut in defense spending that would impact dollars for programs and contracts, across the board, that would affect our area.”

The impending closure of the Joint Forces Command, which provides research and development, modeling and simulation, and training to the military, will slow one flow of defense contracts for firms large and small in the region.

“Everybody’s kind of breathing a sigh of relief,” said Tom Mastaglio, CEO of Mymic LLC, of news that roughly half of JFCOM’s functions will continue in Hampton Roads.

Yet Mastaglio – a West Point grad, 22-year Army veteran and founding director of the Virginia Modeling, Analysis and Simulation Center in Suffolk in the late 1990s – said he’s not sure how much to buy in to what he terms “spin.”

“We’re on the slippery slope here,” he said. “If we’re not careful, there are going to be some significant issues for small businesses.”

The Portsmouth-based company employs about 80 people and has about $20 million worth of defense contract work, about 90 percent of its portfolio. It’s now on a mission to diversify its product line, creating computer programs to help train emergency medical response teams, provide therapy for people with brain injuries, and improve security at U.S. ports. It’s already won a contract with the Virginia Port Authority.

“As a region, we’ve got to look beyond defense,” Mastaglio said. “If you don’t want to end up like Detroit, we better figure out what we have, what our organic capabilities are and how we can use them to meet other needs, rather than being largely dependent on a single customer .”

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Others, however, believe that the region has such a well-established defense infrastructure, with facilities and a talent pool few other places can match, that it will continue to hold its own, at the very least, and even may see some growth.

“There’s a huge customer base there, and there’s a lot of talent,” said Dave Herr, president of BAE Systems’ Rockville, Md.-based Support Solutions sector. “It’s a good place to do business; it’s fairly diversified; I’d say it’s fairly well-positioned.”

BAE’s Support Solutions sector includes the Chesapeake communications facility, an office in Hampton and, most recognizable, its shipyard at the mouth of the Elizabeth River’s Southern Branch.

“The Hampton Roads area is actually fairly central to the BAE strategy,” Herr said.

Last summer, anticipating some of the shifts in the defense environment now under way, BAE reconfigured its businesses, shoring up the unit Herr heads, servicing and sustaining existing systems.

“We think there’s going to be rising demand to maintain and upgrade some of those older platforms,” Herr said.

The local shipbuilding and ship-repair industry, in which BAE is a player, contributes significantly to the region’s economy. Nearly one of every 11 jobs in Hampton Roads is directly or indirectly dependent upon the private-sector shipbuilding and repair industry, according to a 2007 study by Old Dominion University’s Economic Forecasting Project.

“Knock on wood, it’s not going to affect us very much,” said Malcolm Branch, president and CEO of the Norfolk-based trade group, of any defense-spending adjustments.

The port’s ship-repair facilities are virtually unparalleled, Branch said, and local firms have adapted to changes by the Navy that concentrate more work in one shipyard through “multi-ship, multi-option” contracts. The Navy’s 30-year plan calls for a minimum fleet of 313 ships. As long as they continue to be built and go to sea, Navy ships will require maintenance and periodic overhaul .

It’s that ongoing pace of operations that may secure continued defense contracting for businesses in Hampton Roads.

“When is that going to end?” asked Al White, an executive at BAE’s Chesapeake facility, pointing to a slide-show image of two camouflaged snipers in an Afghan-like setting, near a portable satellite dish. “When is the war on terror going to be over?”

Until that happens, he said, he’s not too worried.

Robert McCabe, (757) 446-2327, robert.mccabe@pilotonline.com

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Military cuts not big enough

We need some level of "defense" for the few "terrorist" threats out there (the ones not fabricated in mainstream media). But the inconvenient truth is that the US. has mistakenly spent more than half the world combined, this over proliferation of "defense" only hurting us in the end. We started this global cop scenario long ago, and most of us believed for years we were fighting for our "Freedom, Liberty, Justice" It is not Patriotic to sustain this way of thinking. 25% not nearly enough cut. Fact is, war/overspending on defense has diminished those very ideals formentioned. We have less freedom, liberty and justice than nations that cut military spending hugely (free college, better Healthcare, less pollution=less disease)

nuff said

” Mastaglio said. “If you don’t want to end up like Detroit, we better figure out what we have, what our organic capabilities are and how we can use them to meet other needs, rather than being largely dependent on a single customer .”

What We Asked For

If I recall it correctly we asked for a reduction in federal spending, less debt, reduction in federal jobs, tax cuts, a balanced budget, less growth in government, reduction in entitlements(civil servants/military retirements, healthcare, school expenditures ets..) so we can't complain when they give us what we asked for in cuts in Hampton Roads.

Across America the people feel the pain but here in our region, we seem to feel we should be held harmless. It is time to cut to the bone and that includes Hampton Roads. I can't wait to hear the crys against Congress and the President when they give us exactly what we've asked for...

Sad but true.

Who will campaign in 2012 on I cut the budget

As Mr. Bailey notes, the GOP got elected on a platform of cutting spending, taxes, and deficits. It will be interesting in 2012 if Congressmen Whitman, Forbes, and Rigell run commercials touting how they cut jobs and defense spending in the region, to do their part to cut the spending, budget and deficit. Cutting spending is always great idea when someone else feels the pain.

how is peace won and held

We want your land. We want your raw minerals. We want to end your export of immodesty. Stop infecting our people with your .....

Peasce is won through strength. When opponents are met, they seldom if ever resort to reason to end conflict. Negotiations are based upon superiority and strength to overcome one's side of "harmed". In the movie "The mouse that roared" premised that the USA surrendered because of small country having the "super weapon".

Peace is held through strength akin to old west stories of constant challenges to the gun slinger that "tamed" the town.

There is no logic or reality that believe that if we give up our might those wanting superioty over the USA (us) will be nice to us.

We are free because we are strong.

It would be much cheaper to defend Americans

than to defend global corporate imperialism. Rust never sleeps.

But the problem with your

But the problem with your reasoning is the cold hard truth....War and massive weapons do NOT defend the USA. In fact, they only perpetrate "terrorism". Note quotes, since War IS terrorism. We were "attacked" nearly a decade ago....much theory suggests it was perpetrated by internal dirty politics. Attacking Iraq or Afghanistan cannot stop "terrorism". Think of why 9/11 may have happened to begin with (USA builds uncessary weapons for money, ships unecessary weapons off to hostile nations for money, hostile nation attacks Palestinean soil...oops retalition? No country that has been wise or BRAVE enough to pull out of war gets "attacked by terrorist"

Outsourcing

Large businesses continue to be outsourced overseas and the US unemployment rate continues to rise. The US DOD has employed thousands in the Hampton Roads area. How much will unemployment rise if we are impacted by the cuts? How many of these US citizens will fall into the unemployment statistics, foreclosure statistics, homeless statistics, etc...? As long as there are terrorists attacks against the US, the contractors in the area are supporting a good cause to keep the US safe from further attacks. And as long as businesses continue to provide employment to other countries and not the US, at least these US citizens have jobs.

Pogo

We have met the enemy and he is us. Eisenhower warned fifty years ago about the obscene growth of the military industrial complex. Under President Reagan and then George W. Bush, defense growth bankrupted the country. When will we ever learn?

Our biggest weakness is our military strengh. That is FACT

Amen Pogo! Very well said. I wrote and published article on just that.it can be googled by title "US. Foreign Policy: Another "Inconvenient Truth?". I mention Eisenhower's as well as some of our founding fathers that were highly against deep military/"defense" spending. It also highlights with backed up research/sources how America's sustained wars and designing unecessary weapons are causing a decline in the very ordeals we were conditioned to believe we were "fighting for" (Freedom, liberty, justice, independence) Just look at where we stand in healthcare, dead last just notch above 3rd world Cuba, education slipping #1 reason (PROVEN) $800 billion/yr spent on this crap! How naive can people be, to think this serves our nation?

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