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5 Somali pirates get life for attack on Nicholas

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Four of five Somalis convicted of piracy in an attack on a Navy warship remained defiant as they were sentenced to life in prison Monday, each vowing to appeal, with one demanding an explanation of exactly how he was convicted.

"I did not kill anybody. I did not rob anybody. I did not attack anybody," Somali defendant Abdi Mohammed Umar told U.S. District Judge Mark S. Davis through an interpreter. "I'd like to be told the reason I have been found guilty on this case."

Davis explained that a jury found him and his co-defendants guilty of piracy and related charges after a trial last fall. The judge also noted that the Somalis confessed.

The judge then sentenced Umar to life in prison plus 80 years. He gave identical prison terms to the others: Mohammed Modin Hasan, Gabul Abdullahi Ali, Abdi Wali Dire and Abdi Mohammed Gurewardher.

The life prison term was mandatory under federal piracy law.

Only defendant Hasan seemed contrite.

"I am sorry that I have been accused of these crimes," he told the judge.

But the others demanded an appeal.

"I find the crime that I was found guilty of is unjust," defendant Gurewardher said.

"I'm not accepting the outcome of this case," Dire said. "I'd like to appeal."

Hasan, Ali and Dire were in what prosecutors called an attack skiff, armed with AK-47s and a rocket-propelled grenade launcher, the morning of April 1, 2010, when they fired at the Norfolk-based frigate Nicholas, thinking it was a merchant vessel.

The Nicholas captured those three and then a few hours later captured Umar and Gurewardher in what was called a mother ship, loaded with enough provisions and fuel to last several weeks.

Three of the defendants testified at trial that they were kidnapped by the real pirates and forced to take part in the attack. The judge noted that the jury apparently rejected that testimony.

U.S. Attorney Neil MacBride issued a stern warning to other pirates.

"Today's sentences should send a clear message to those who attempt to engage in piracy: Armed attacks on U.S.-flagged vessels carry severe consequences in U.S. courts," he said in a statement.

One defense attorney cautioned that the message could backfire, given statements made by Somalis after the recent pirate attack of a yacht and the slayings of four Americans.

William Holmes, who represents Ali, told the judge about a news report in which a Somali warned after the sentencing of another Somali pirate in New York that pirates would begin killing hostages. That pirate, Abduwali Muse, was sentenced to 34 years in prison after pleading guilty to the attack on the Maersk ship Alabama.

The attack on the yacht Quest happened shortly after that, Holmes said.

"We don't need anything to add gas to the fire," Holmes said.

But the judge said he must, under federal rules, consider the deterrence effect in sentencing anyone. And his hands were essentially tied under federal sentencing rules.

In all, the Somalis were convicted of 14 counts, but Davis threw out one count. He sentenced each man to life for piracy to run consecutively with the 80-year term. He added various 10- and 20-year terms, all to run concurrently to the life plus 80 years.

The only chance for the Somalis now is for an appeals court to overturn their case. There is also an appeals hearing scheduled for March 25 in Richmond that could decide whether the piracy statute is constitutional.

U.S. District Judge Raymond A. Jackson, sitting in the same courthouse as Davis, threw out the same piracy charge against six Somalis in a similar attack on the Little Creek-based dock landing ship Ashland.

Tim McGlone, (757) 446-2343, tim.mcglone@pilotonline.com

Posted to: Crime Military News Norfolk

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Oh great

So we get to feed, clothe and house this guy for the next 80 years.

Lucky us.

nah......

he'll be out and about way before that..probably got a lawyer and getting ready to sue that shipping company for putting the temptation for him!

So true

Sorry what was I thinking. How dare they tempt these poor men this way. Why not only will they be released but they will probably receive letters of apology and a cash award.

ARRRRRRRR!

Arrrrr! I say either make em' walk the plank or keel haul em'.

Oh......The Spirit of Norfolk will work.

Besides

it's got to be Americas fault that the little b@$*@rd didn't have a little red wagon when he was a kid...

ahhhh

That is 80 years plus life. He will be there awhile.

Oh, blah, blah, blah ...

These are federal charges, so when you spread the cost among all 300 million Americans, the price of jailing these cretins forever will cost each of us a grand total of less than 3 cents over our lifetime.

Given that few of us are gonna live another 80 years, it's more likely that it will cost each of us on this board less than a penny.

I'm up for that if it keeps 'em behind bars. Russ, if it makes ya feel better, I'll chip in yours, too. Post your address, I'll send ya a check. ;-)

Wow thanks!

Glad to see someone is looking out for me :)

How about

How about we make an example out of some of these animals! just a thought!

now they know thet is they are captured they will live a great life better than they had before with a roof over their heads and medical treatments, ohh yea not to mention free food for life + 80 years!

Somalia or U.S. Jail?

Let's see? If I had a choice between Somalia or U.S. Jail.....
I think these guys got over. They are definitely going to eat better over over here than they would if they were jailed in Somalia.

rehabilitation

Bush would have released them for art therapy.

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/international/art_jDhj2e2aUxSz5tTyhngztI

Rehab

Or we can have obama bow to them and apologize for the rotten way America has treated them.

you can apologize

if you want.

Obama would not apologize

For all the grief the man gets from those on the extreme right and extreme left I want to say President Obama would not apologize to these fools that tried to attack a US warship, on the high seas!

Why

Why does my President have to be dragged into this? Hasn't he enough to do? Is he responsible for Everything? I am offended that your patriotism toward your president isn't what it should be. Have you no respect for the man (yes man, not the republican term mesiah) that is leading your country in one of its worst of times. You should show more support. Your negative comments are unAmerican. I just hope you wear no uniform of any kind. Not even a candy striper uniform. You hold alegience to nothing if not your country and its President.

I may be PMSn today, but frivilous comments about our President irks the bejeezes out of me.

Glad I released. I feel better already. Thanks for the ear. :o)

Cause...

For the same reason you democtat party members need to constantly bring up past GOP Presidents to justify the inept way your (yes your, not my) current president does anything.

Correct, I have no respect for the man. I respect the rank, title, and office he holds (learned that from my military backround), but I do not repsect the man.

"need to constantly bring up past GOP Presidents"

You republicans still bring up Clinton (and even Carter).

Let us know when you are going to practice what you preach and chastise those who bring up Clinton for blame.

pirate sentencing

Pirates kill anyone who comes between them and ill-got fortunes. They kidnap, rape, pillage, and plunder as a way of life. Anything less than hanging is not enough. Want to end this hijacking on the high seas, then don't elevate it to rock star status.

Think again ...

It is *far* cheaper to keep these jerks in prison for the rest of their lives than to execute them.

Here's why: It costs about $25K each, or $125K per year for all 5, to imprison them. But if you sentence them to death, we then have to provide them lawyers to assist them through the multi-layered appeals process for the next 12 years. At that point you're feeding 5 prisoners plus 10 lawyers, and countless clerks, judges, secretaries, etc.

These guys are in their 20s and 30s. If they're lucky enough to live another 50 years, the grand total of their incarceration would be *way* less than the grand total of paying for their death penalty appeals process.

Sad, but true.

Hmmm...

50 pack of .40 Cal ...$20.00. Sounds cheaper to me.....

Think Again...

You are assuming that just because they were given the life+80yrs that they will just accept the sentence and not appeal. However, they have said that they will appeal, so we still have to provide them the lawyers and tie up the courts anyway. Just give the death sentence, let the process run it's course, and execute them (if not overturned in the appeals process) and save the cost of providing care and shelter for those who are not even US citizens on the backs of the US taxpayers, as well as sending a message to their fellow pirates that such acts will not be tolerated.

BTW, $125K times 50 years is $6.25 million. Not exactly chump change, is it?

We support them

either through prison or welfare. That is our lot in life, as taxpayers.

prison industrial complex

The government chooses to put people in prison to support the prison industrial complex. Many people make money and have jobs due to people being in prison. I believe only dangerous people should be locked up. Non-dangerous offenders should be given fines and/or communite service.
America incarcerates more people than any other nation on earth. Much money is made by the government scaring the average person. Why weren't these pirates tried by the World Court in the Hague? Didn't these crimes occur in international waters?

Because ...

Somalia has never agreed to the treaties required for International Criminal Court participation. Nor have most other African states. They don't recognize it.

Further, the ICC has yet to agree how to handle "crimes of aggression" as opposed to war crimes, etc. So it's up to us, or just let 'em go. Given that they attacked with AK-47s, I'm kinda OK with 'em being locked up forever.

Life in prison

Did they kill or hurt anyone? Just wondering why the sentences were so harsh. Too many life sentences are handed out in America. First-degree murder and treason should be the only crimes that carry life.

What?

We should also ask them "Pretty Please. Don't be a Pirate. Please dont take people hostage. Please don't shoot at our ships".

Instead, we are sticking them in Prison so they can learn the english language, spend time working with court appointed lawyers on appeals, and simply wasting our tax payers money.

I have a better idea. Put them back in the there little skiff. Drag them half way to somalia, which would be the center of the Atlantic Ocean and wave good-bye.

because the US doesn't have the backbone to execute them

Because the US and the international forces don't have the backbone to shoot them on the spot or hang them where they are caught, that's why we have to house and feed them for life. And by the way treason should be punished by DEATH not by life in prison.

life

Life in prison is a death sentence.

Right

Right on. The incaceration kick-back money from the contracted prisons will go to someone inthe court.

The only reason we

The only reason we incarcerate so many people is because its not politically correct in the US to hang someone for stealing any more. Public executions were quite a deterent to crime back in the day. You certainly have to keep people like this away from society or they will just do it again, and again and again. As far as the expense goes, in many nations it is the responsibility of the bad guy's family or friends to bring them food and clothes while in prison or they just get bread and water. So theres one idea. And for the record, I'm philosophically opposed to the death penalty. I just think its a pragmatic solution that goes against my personal sense of morality.

Kill you twice

Only in the american court you can kill someone twice.

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Pirates should be shot and killed on the spot while attempting to commit the act. This will save taxpayers a ton of dough and deter other would-be pirates from doing the same.

Pirates Conviction

Well now, they were convicted of privacy and sentenced to life + 80 years, and one of them says he will "appeal". Now we will have to feed these "thugs",give them a roof over their heads, and jumpsuits for life, and one of there thugs says he will appeal! Yea,I can just see him appealing a sentence in his own country, a bullet between the eyes,case closed!
no feeding for life,or clean clothes,or a roof over their heads,at the expense of the taxpayer. They should have been sent to Kenya for trial,
not returned to our soil for trial. We have enough problems here without importing more. The only good pirate, is a dead pirate! No sentence,no appeal.

Wate of tax payers money!

Next time if weapons are drawn in international waters then turn them into chum. You have to talk dog to a dog and cat to cat, speaking zebra to a badger does not work.

Let them go

Send them back home. Maybe next time we will have figured out how to deal with them. I don't want my tax dollars feeding and clothing them, giving them recreation and health care. I'd much rather just send them back to the mess they came from to regroup and try their business again. We'll get it right eventually. As far as those possible victims in the area, take care of yourselves, protect yourselves, call for help if you get in trouble. Much cheaper on our damaged financial situation. Drop them off out in a replica of their boat, same area. Case closed. Millions saved.

Take No Prisoners

The US needs to look at our pirate policy. Justice is good, but at what expense? Fight the pirates then leave them behind. This is such a game with them.

Also, I do not think they will last too long in prison once you mix them in the general population.

My 2 cent

As you can see,weather sentenced to life or death there is an appeal process that costs every one.So in my opinion its not cheaper to just put peaple in prison for the rest of their life.Also to those that say release them I say this.If you release them back to where ever they got them,it puts our men and women at risk for future attacks by the pirates.Sooner or later our military will stop trying to capture them and just out right terminate them at the location where they engage the pirates which they have all the right to do.Its more humane to try to capture than to out right terminate.To those,you would complain then our miltary is wrong for these actions.The lawyer said adding fuel to the fire.There has to be a deterence to stop this.

I was under the impression

I was under the impression the US tries you by a jury of your peers. How did this happen for the pirates? Don't get me wrong, these pirates deserve everything they get and more, but did we have US pirates handy to serve on a jury?

BTW, I like the post that said put them in a rowboat and leave them in the deep midAtlantic with one oar and a rock (for defense) and wave buh-bye.

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