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Portsmouth council yet to act on pension promise

Posted to: Local Government News Portsmouth

PORTSMOUTH

An expensive commitment to right what many municipal retirees consider a decades-old wrong has vanished from the city's to-do list.

City Council members who voted last year to tackle the pension-reduction issue for 440 people said last week they have not given up on the measure. The budget that began July 1 contains no money for it, however, and some council members are still waiting on a plan from City Manager Kenneth Chandler on how to fund it.

Councilman Steve Heretick said the matter was "really an impossible conversation" to have this budget year, which included a real estate tax rate hike to cover increasing costs.

A group of retirees following the issue has grown to about 50 members, many of whom attended council meetings last winter to keep their request in the public eye. They don't plan to let the issue die.

"We can't. It means too much to a lot of people," said Bob Brown, a retired 33-year social services worker.

At issue is a provision in the city's old retirement system for general wage employees that reduces pensions when members reach 65 and begin collecting Social Security. Any cost-of-living increases members had received since retirement also are wiped out.

Together, the changes can reduce a retiree's city pension by half or more, not counting their new Social Security payments.

The Portsmouth retirees have consistently said they were not fully informed about the Social Security offset when they had a chance in the 1980s to leave the plan. Brown said he recalls being told that if he thought he'd spend the rest of his career in Portsmouth, his best bet was to stay in the city system.

"Who in their right mind would go with a pension plan that's going to reduce at the age of 65 when my Social Security kicks in?" he asked. "Why would we penalize ourselves?"

Shirley Robinson, 66, spent 30 years with the city as a social services eligibility worker. She said she was already relying on savings when her city pension was reduced. She said she now gets help from family to pay her bills.

"It's like I'm not receiving the Social Security at all," she said.

According to a list from the city, as of Jan. 1, about 400 retired workers were drawing pensions from the city system. Of those retirees, 263 were receiving gross payments of less than $2,000 each per month, and 129 were receiving less than $1,000 each per month, according to the city record. The list did not specify which retirees had turned 65.

The city closed its retirement system to new employees in 1984 and moved new workers to the state-run Virginia Retirement System.

Employees at the time were allowed to choose to stay in the city system or move to VRS. Each had their perks. Other cities and government agencies also were in VRS, allowing workers to transfer their accrued benefits across multiple employers.

Members in the Portsmouth system accrued benefits at a slightly faster rate, and in the 1990s a $200 health insurance supplement was added to their monthly payments until age 65.

VRS does not reduce payments or take away cost-of-living increases when retirees start collecting Social Security, however.

A 1984 article in Currents, a community news section for Portsmouth readers of The Pilot, about the employees' decision said the city's actuarial firm had given each worker a sheet comparing their benefits under both systems. A 1977 city handbook on the Portsmouth retirement system also includes a section that says the benefit calculation takes Social Security into account.

Jim Finnegan, another retired social services employee, said he and other retirees' recollections are murky over what exactly was said about the differences in benefits, but they are sure the impact of the offset was never clearly explained.

David Norman, a retired 27-year director of Behavioral Healthcare Services, said he remembers hearing that the only benefit to switching to the state system was its portability.

A council-appointed committee of financial and business leaders studied the issue and concluded that the Social Security offset reduced some benefits to below the poverty level. They recommended that the provision be removed, at a cost of about $1.9 million a year over the 25-year life of the plan.

The City Council tried to help on a smaller scale in April 2010. They voted to distribute one-time checks for $1,083 to 81 retirees whose city benefits fell below the poverty line.

In May 2010, the council voted 7-0 to direct the city manager to devise a plan to pay for the elimination of the offset in three years. A study last fall reported that it would cost $6.5 million a year to pay for the change in that shorter time frame.

Chandler was directed to have a plan ready for adoption in the current budget, but council members never discussed the matter at any length this spring. Councilman Curtis E. Edmonds Sr. suggested putting a portion of a prior year's surplus toward the expense, but the idea was never pursued.

Mayor Kenny Wright said the issue needs to be addressed, but that it's not a top priority.

He said his bigger concern is the long-term solvency of the retirement system, along with a second, much larger pension the city has for public safety employees. Both systems were funded below 40 percent as of July 1, 2010. Systems funded at 80 percent typically are viewed as healthy.

The retirees worry the offset issue will get lost in the larger discussion on the health of the pension systems. To some, it's not just a question of fairness but a matter of making ends meet in their golden years.

"This is one of life's biggest decisions, and this atom bomb gets dropped," Finnegan said.

Dave Forster, (757) 446-2627, dave.forster@pilotonline.com

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UNDER PAID

I know this is off the record but i feel their a need for this to be addressed. This has been addressed to department heads as well as city manager an chain of commands. In may the city was shook by a bad storm. The city employee's worked overtime for weeks until they were told they couldn't work any more overtime.They have yet been paid for the overtime they worked. Who outside the city can help them with this serious issue they've reported this to the proper chain of command an everyone , everyone is doing nothing to get these employees paid HELP!!! I strongly encourage people to go to the poles an know who you are voting for. These people are holding this city back an are abusing who ever they can.

Same Sheet of Music

After reading all the comments it is obvious that we all went to different meetings to be helped with our retirement decisions. It is also obvious that all the presenters/advisers were not singing from the same sheet of music. At the meeting I attended we were told that if there were major changes to the VSRS system we would be given other opportunities to rethink our decision. Since 1984 there have been several major changes to the VSRS system that would have effected my choice. To this date no one that I know of has had the opportunity to rethink their decision. Social security reduction and the future loss of all COLA raises was never discussed at the time I made my choice or at the time I signed my retirement request.

Clearly remember

Clearly remember the biggest, champion for this cause advising the city garage employees to go with VRS due to the reduction in the city system. He then was in a position to fix it and didn't, now a very costly fix. Really feel for the retirees on a fixed income if the expense was related to waterfront development no problem, would already be done.

Shame on You City of Portsmouth

I really feel that this is a disgrace to the retirees who have given the City of Portsmouth 30-35+ years of their hard work & dedication. These employees did not sign up for the state option they went with the city. Now the city is acting like they don't remember this. These employees now are being penalized to where their pension is now cut $600+. It is hard out here in this world and it is hard for them to get by as it is. From paying for medical and lets not forget preprescriptions its hard for them. The new manager says that it needs to be addressed but not a top priority. He needs to realize that these same retirees he is turning his back on are some of the same people who helped him get into office. The City should be ashamed.

Amnesia

Amnesia sets in after occupying Dep Mgr, City Mgr., Council, or the Mayors office. Seems all campaign promises or inferrences magically are forgotten. City employees now are lucky if they get a small "bonus" so it doesn't figure into their retirements, while vast amounts are invested into ventures with questionable stability.

Blue Ribbon Committee

If I don't have amnesia, I believe the new Mayor served on the blue ribbon committee that recommended a fix and how to fund it. No I must not remember accurately...just could not be.

Here is the Truth Of It Alll

I retired from the City of Portsmouth. I entered the system before all new employees were placed under the Virginia State Retirement System. When I went to work for the City of Portsmouth it was called the Portsmouth Supplemental Retirement System. Everything we were told and all the literature made it clear that if one retired and began receiving SS the Portsmouth retirement pension would be reduced by one half of the SS benefit. That was one of many reasons I switched to the Virginia Retirement plan when given the choice. For people to say now that they were not told is just not true. Now that reality has set in they want a do over. If the city gives in do I also get a do over if my retirement would increase under the changed plan?

Typical

They made a mistake, didn't fully understand the program they were under, and now they want it fixed? I want the 200,000 in value I lost from my home, I want the 20,000 I lost in the stock market. Should I ask the city to pay that too? Give me a break. I also find it funny that both worked in the entitlement section of the governent, and were advising others on their benefit(handout) eligibility!

A Travesty

People earn their pensions and have a right to them. Social Security, we're constantly reminded" is not supposed to make up a full retirement. So why cut a hard earned pension when Social Security eligibility kicks in. Also, SS encourages people not to take it at age 65 and to wait until age 68 or 72 yet the pension of "for general wage employees" (not higher ups) is cut? This is wrong.

So...

... If the pension plan, which is less than 40% funded, is insolvent, what happens to EVERYONE? What part of "there isn't enough money" do they not understand? Oh, and they ARE getting the pension they earned.

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