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Sen. Warner wants another crack at the national debt

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VIRGINIA BEACH

U.S. Sen. Mark Warner said Wednesday he's attempting to form a new coalition - this time with both House and Senate members - to replace the so-called Gang of Six senators.

The panel would push for major changes in spending, taxes and social welfare programs to reduce the federal deficit by about $4 trillion over 10 years.

"I'm not going to give up the fight. This problem is not going to go away," Warner said during a luncheon speech.

The Virginia Democrat said the debt-ceiling legislation recently approved by Congress and signed by President Barack Obama doesn't make a deep enough dent in the deficit. Nor, he said, does it make changes in taxes or entitlements, such as Social Security and Medicare, which must be part of the solution.

The approved legislation requires about $1 trillion in deficit reductions by capping discretionary spending, including defense. An additional $1.2 trillion or more in cuts are to be determined this fall by a 12-member House-Senate "supercommittee."

However, "$2.2 trillion is not enough," Warner told the Filipino American Community Action Group meeting at Suzanne's Kitchenette restaurant. "We can't just get there by cutting."

Warner credited the legislation approved earlier this month for preventing the United States from defaulting on its bills by permitting an increase in the debt limit.

But, he said, the measure didn't go far enough in addressing the fact that the government continues to borrow too much money to pay for its regular expenses.

"We came up with a political bill that kind of just got us over the hump but didn't really solve anything. You saw what happened," he said, recalling that Standard & Poor's subsequently cut the country's credit rating and stock market values dropped.

Warner, who voted for the debt-ceiling bill, said a new coalition should work with Congress' supercommittee to encourage them to reach an agreement but also push for broader changes.

Warner wants to build on the work of the Gang of Six - three Republicans and three Democrats, including himself - who developed a bipartisan plan endorsing hundreds of billions of dollars in potential budget cuts.

The panel of six senators also supported rewriting tax codes to broaden the tax base; cutting defense spending; and overhauling entitlement programs.

Warner warned his audience, which included several military veterans, that any broad plan would probably require higher taxes for some and higher fees for some services, including Tricare.

"The truth is that you will see some increase in some of the Tricare co-payments," he said. The cost of health care "is the fastest-growing part of the defense budget.... I know some of you don't want to hear that... but everything has to be on the table."

Medicare and Social Security might not change for older Americans, he said, but those programs have to be changed for future retirees or they can't be sustained.

In order to cut deficit spending, changes in the tax codes also are required, he said. The tax rates could be lowered, he said, but some deductions that are popular might be ended.

Warner said he doesn't expect deductions for home mortgage payments to be affected but that deductions for second homes might be reduced or eliminated. There might also be stricter limits on deductions for charitable contributions.

"These are suggestions, not recommendations," he said. "Everything is going to have to take some amount of a small hit."

Warner did not say who might take part in the new coalition, but he acknowledged that he recently talked with U.S. Sen. Saxby Chambliss, a Georgia Republican who helped form the Gang of Six, and several other lawmakers.

Warner said he hopes to enlist U.S. Rep. Frank Wolf, a Northern Virginia Republican who has urged House leaders to consider the Gang of Six's plans.

"We also need to make it a broad coalition," Warner said. "We also need the business community, who have, frankly, been absent."

The senator said any budget and deficit changes would require Democrats and Republicans to compromise.

"I think you need to demand from all of us that we put the country first," Warner said. "I think you should fire all of us if we don't - myself included."

Bill Bartel, (757) 446-2398, bill.bartel@pilotonline.com

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Trapped

If there are had been sound fiscal management from our government over the years, we'd have the capacity to spend and stimulate the economy without risking default on trillions of dollars of debt. High flying spending and living is behind us now. Time to return to 1950s living standards. But I want to see the resignation of one person first. Fed Reserve Chairman Bernanke should resign as an enabler of profligate government spending. You haven't seen real inflation yet because of this man who's been busy debasing the dollar's value. With two thirds of the dollars in circulation outside the US, as the US goes, so goes the world....down...down....down.

bwahaha

that is like letting the weasel back into the chicken coop to see who has been stealing all the eggs.

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"compromise"

"The senator said any budget and deficit changes would require Democrats and Republicans to compromise"

The GOP and tea party members don't know the meaning of the word....compromise.

I wish Senator Warner well, but until we get rid of those members he's going to have a very big fight on his hands. The GOP and tea party are only thinking about keeping their promise the big business/corporations and the oil companies and nothing more, we the people are not their concern.

please explain the lack of a want to compromise...

...with Republicans BEFORE the "...GOP and tea party members..." took control of the House of Representatives!

It was OBAMA who told Cantor not too long after he was inaugurated that he "won" the election and Cantor's party "lost" and he (Obama) trumped all. Cantor was trying to give the POTUS some advice and seeking a "bi-partisan" COMPROMISE on some issue and the POTUS had ZERO inclination to any form of a COMPROMISE!

Where was he/Pelosi/Reid willing to COMPROMISE with respect to Obama-care?

Your beloved POTUS is a disingenuous person and couldn't have cared less about our economy or unemployment. He had control of all THREE houses for TWO entire years until this past January. He had ZERO opposition before then...this is HIS economy!

Sure Gertz - the republicans

Sure Gertz - the republicans will compromise the same way the Dems did on Obamacare. How does that sound?

Republican health care plan

"Obamacare" (including the individual mandate) was essentially designed by Republicans:

It was a proposal by the conservative Heritage Foundation in 1990.

It was supported by Bush I in 1993.

It was proposed by Congressional Republicans as an alternative to Clinton's health reform.

Republican Governor Romney implemented it in his state.

I believe that there is a bipartisan consensus to have individual mandates.” – Republican Sen. Chuck Grassley Fox News 06/14/2009

okayyyyyy

So if it is/was so great why didn't Clinton and other democrats get behind it back then?

"Republican Governor Romney implemented it in his STATE." exactly...in his STATE! Maybe you've heard of a little thing called the 10th amendment? "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."

Grassley also said "There isn’t anything wrong with it [an individual mandate], except some people look at it as an INFRINGEMENT upon individual freedom." based upon his previous statement "And one would be the individual mandate, which for the first time would have a federal PENALTY against people who don’t have health insurance.

Enumerated powers

specifically delegated to the United States by the Constitution that apply to health reform include the taxation clause, the general welfare clause, the commerce clause, and the necessary and proper clause.

There is about 70 years of Supreme Court precedent interpreting those powere broadly.

Republicans are on record as

Republicans are on record as favoring health reform with an individual mandate as national legislation.

Here's a more complete quote about the individual mandate:

“There isn’t anything wrong with it, except some people look at it as an infringement upon individual freedom. But when it comes to states requiring it for automobile insurance, the principle then ought to lie the same way for health insurance, because everybody has some health insurance costs, and if you aren’t insured, there’s no free lunch. Somebody else is paying for it… I believe that there is a bipartisan consensus to have individual mandates.” – Republican Sen. Chuck Grassley Fox News 06/14/2009

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