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Beach proposal for dredging station draws angry rebuke from residents

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VIRGINIA BEACH

The residents along Shore Drive had one message for the city officials who want to build a dredge spoils transfer station off Long Creek: Don't do it.

Nearly 200 squeezed into a recreation center room Thursday night to voice their opposition to a city proposal to put a permanent dredge transfer station on Maple Street next to the Marina Shores marina.

"I think it's a terrible idea," said Andy Friedman, a resident who lives across the water from the site.

The Beaches and Waterways Commission, an advisory group to the City Council, has recommended in a draft report that the Long Creek site remain part of the plan, but with restrictions. The commission, which will present its final report in the coming months, suggested that the city use the site for only 90 working days a year, avoid bringing in barges during the summer, and haul 30 truckloads a day of dredge spoils out of the site.

"There are methods of mitigation and opportunities for controls that will eliminate or significantly reduce, many of the issues of concern," the draft report states.

The city launched its neighborhood dredging program last year to help residents deepen their channels if they agree to a tax rate increase. Dredging can mean greater access for boats and higher property values, and residents in about a dozen waterfront communities are interested in participating.

Each neighborhood dredging project requires City Council approval, and the Beach needs to find multiple sites to unload the dredge spoils from the barges.

The proposed Maple Street site has caused the most controversy.

The city wants to use the property because it already serves as a spoils site for Army Corps of Engineers dredging projects every few years. The city's plan, however, calls for a more intensive use with a barge, excavator and the need for a bulkhead.

Residents complained that the station is more industrial and incompatible with their neighborhood, would bring in truck traffic and could reduce the value of their properties. They have argued that dredge spoils from other neighborhoods shouldn't disrupt their community.

The opponents collected more than 1,400 signatures for a petition against the station and created a website to draw attention to their cause. Last month, the Virginia Beach Board of Zoning Appeals ruled in the residents' favor that the city couldn't use the site for a permanent spoils station because it only leases the land and doesn't own the property. The city is appealing that decision in court.

"For anybody to say there's not going to be an impact is insane," said Chris Varva, who lives near the site.

Thomas Fraim, the chairman of the commission, said the city should limit the use of all the transfer stations, including Long Creek, to only the nearby neighborhoods that want to participate in the Beach's dredging program.

Beach officials believe that neighborhoods such as Baycliff, Bay Island and Cape Henry Shores would be able to use the Long Creek transfer station. However, none of those neighborhoods has requested to participate in the dredging program yet, said Phil Davenport, the interim public works director.

The Beaches and Waterways Commission will consider the comments from Thursday's meeting as it completes its final report, Davenport said.

Deirdre Fernandes, (757) 222-5121, deirdre.fernandes@pilotonline.com

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CITIZEN'S UPDATE FEBRUARY 12, 2012

Beaches & Waterways Report released Feb. 10, 2012: The Maple St. Municipal Dredged spoils transfer facility should not be developed now or in the future. Read at vbgov.com - Dredge Program.
Sept, 2011- The City's own Board of Zoning Appeals rules that a Municipal Dredged Spoils Transfer Facility is not allowable use in R7.5 zoning on that parcel.
Over 1500 people on an online opposition Petition.
Jan. 2012 Citizens from Broad Bay Colony & Cape Story have requested that the VMRC application be withdrawn, the City's appeal to Circuit Court & Council's promise to rezone the wetlands to P-1 in 1987 be upheld.
Jan. 9th - Possible Resolution by Council to take Maple St. off consideration for a spoils transfer site.
Zoning should protect people!

I don't know

everything about this issue and do not live where the dredging is being planned... but one wonders if these are the same self centered folks who railed against the developer who owned all those acres at Lynnhaven? They blocked his project because of their concern for the saving the environment... I mean all those homes and condos at the inlet would be bad right? Yes of course.. except for their homes and condos. Just wondering.

B & W Commission Says No Need at Crab Creek & Maple St.

....just an FYI -- there apparently is not a need at either Crab Creek or
at Maple St. on Long Creek. Estimates for Crab Creek are over $1million...
Long Creek's cost starts at $400K for the bulkhead then add in the development of the road and the necessity for a stoplight and what are you up to. For no need. Your taxes. The B & W is recorded as saying that they should build Maple even if only one person needed to use it. So, say $2million or more for no need. You gotta be on board with that type of thinking. The waterways closer to Laskin Rd. and Virginia Beach Blvd have the dredging needs and the transfer sites would be more commercially located and closer to the disposal area. Why at Maple St. first -- they've said there's no need.

Long Creek

Isn't the north side of Long Creek (North of Bay Island) the side the City dredged 40-50 years ago? Before that, it was what, 2' deep at high tide and a mud flat?

The transfer station is set to be located near a commercial use, and yes, across from a residential use. I understand their concerns, but it sounds to me like the City is (for once) addressing them as best and fairly they can.

Is Your Research Based on the Virginian Pilot Articles?

Is that where you get your facts? A newspaper article? VB Attorney?
right......I guess you better do a little more research and attend
some meetings -- before you make a statement like that. Have you been to
the Broad Bay Island Civic league Meetings? Cape Story's? Long Creek Cove's - how
about the Board of Zoning Appeals Hearing - do you know the legal case presented?... Did you attend the meeting last night or any of the two + months of the Beaches and Waterways commission meetings? They're public, you know.

You are right - a giant conspiracy

Make sure you have your tinfoil hat on when you log on to your computer. The city, state and the newspaper may send brain altering waves through the email....

Exactly

The biggest whiners live across the water...all taxpayers in VB pay for their dredging. But they are opposed to the poorer folks having the ability to tax themselves and dredge their neighborhoods. Classic.

Your reasoning is confusing

The Long Creek waterway is a connecting waterway between many many neighborhoods from Laskin Rd. and Broad Bay to the Lynnhaven Basin and
Chesapeake Bay. The reuse of the hydraulically dredged sand is used by the entire public on the public beaches. Homes are taxed according to their values. Surely a home not on the water, a pond, a salt marsh, or deep water are all assessed differently. Therefore higher taxes are already paid by those homeowners on deep water as well as the people who enjoy the recreational use of the connecting waterway. The people of the Long Creek area have made life decisions on the zoning & historical use of this area. If you can't count on zoning laws - then the people have no protection at all.

Is this fun for you?

I've followed your blogs for a long time. Where are you getting your facts? Do you know which neighborhoods have had their SSD program approved? Do you know which neighborhood just had their "council workshop" and the value of
their homes? Hmmmmm, no? This shouldn't be class warfare & nor are the people near the proposed sites against the property owners wanting the dredging. You benefit - then you endure the short time burden. You seem to have hate in your heart for some reason or a get even attitude. Neighbors and citizens shouldn't be pitted against each other by a city directed, council approved program. These sites are not on the Comprehensive Plan - a state code. Do a little research.

I Love It

For our family, the reason for moving to Virginia Beach was the deep water access. In the old days, you had to argue with the Army Corps of Engineers to dredge, and then your request was rejected. A lot of people dredged illegally and held their breath so they could use their boats.

This is a great idea and, theway it's stated in the article, the use of the facility is not that bad.

Virginia Beach needs the deep water access!

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