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Va. Senate Democrats say GOP can't seize majority

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By Bob Lewis

RICHMOND

Virginia Democrats said Monday they intend to file a lawsuit challenging the right of Republicans to seize a majority in the evenly divided state Senate.

Senate Democratic Leader Dick Saslaw and Sen. Donald McEachin, D-Henrico, said they will ask a court to decide whether Republican Lt. Gov. Bill Bolling can cast the deciding vote in organizing the new Senate that takes office Jan. 11.

Bolling and Senate GOP leaders plan to use Bolling's tiebreaking vote to claim a majority, including the right to dominate and lead standing committees.

Republicans gained two seats in the Nov. 8 state Senate elections, ending a 4-year-old Democratic majority and creating a 20-20 split in the 40-member chamber. Republicans contend Bolling's vote gives them the 21st they need to organize the Senate as they please.

McEachin said Virginia's Constitution is unclear whether the lieutenant governor, an official of the executive branch of government who presides over the Senate, can vote on Senate organizational matters because he's not a senator.

While the right of lieutenant governors to break Senate ties on general legislation is unchallenged, Saslaw said lieutenant governors in the past have declined to vote on the state budget and judicial elections. In those cases, Saslaw said, the Constitution specifies a vote only "by a majority of those elected" for passage. They contend the same is true in organizing the Senate.

"This lieutenant governor says there's nothing he can't vote on. So it's not just a matter of this year; it ought to get settled for all time, and that's the purpose behind this," Saslaw said in a telephone news conference Monday morning.

The issue has never been tested in court.

After the 1995 legislative elections resulted in 20-20 parity in the Senate, Democrats intended to use the tiebreaking vote of then-Lt. Gov. Donald Beyer, a Democrat, to hold on to power.

Republicans appealed then for fairness and prepared to challenge the Democrats' plans in court. It never happened because Virgil Goode, then a conservative Democratic state senator, threatened to side with Senate Republicans unless Democrats agreed to share power by equally apportioning the partisan ratio of Senate committees, which serve as legislative gatekeepers. Their hand forced, Democrats agreed to power-sharing.

Goode later left the Democratic Party, won election to Congress as an independent endorsed by the GOP, then became a Republican before losing his 2008 re-election bid.

"I would hope that my Republican colleagues would remember the words they uttered in 1995 and 1996 and remember that if it was fair then, it's fair now," McEachin said.

This time, there are no Republican senators urging their party to share power. Instead, they're unified in asserting the strategic advantage Bolling gives them to consolidate control over Virginia policymaking. Republicans will hold 68 of the House of Delegates' 100 seats in the new General Assembly, and Republican Gov. Bob McDonnell has two more years left on the single, nonrenewable four-year term Virginia allows its governors.

McDonnell, in a separate conference call with Virginia journalists from a trade mission to India, affirmed the Republicans' intent to exercise power in the Senate.

"It is 20-20, but on organizational matters on the Virginia Senate, the lieutenant governor breaks the tie vote and Bill Bolling has stated his intention is to vote with Republicans and organize accordingly," McDonnell said, calling the issue "an internal organizing matter for the Senate."

The Democrats declined to discuss specifics of when or where they plan to sue, nor would they say whether they've retained an attorney.

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Then vs now

1995:

Democrats: We intend to use the Lt Governor's vote to establish a majority and organize the senate as we see fit.

Republicans: We appeal to your sense of fairness and ask for a compromise.

Democrats: That sounds reasonable. We will compromise.

2011:

Republicans: We intend to use the Lt Governor's vote to establish a majority and organize the senate as we see fit.

Democrats: We appeal to your sense of fairness and ask for a compromise.

Republicans: Go to hell, Liberals.

I love revisionist history!

It wasn't the Democrats who agreed to compromise. It was a SINGLE person who had to threaten the Dem caucus with immediate defection (giving the Rep a majority) who achieved the compromise.

Okay try this timeline then

1995 Republicans: It is illegal for the Democrats to use the Lt Governor's vote in the Senate to break a tie as to how the Senate is organized and we will fight this issue in the courts if necessary

2011 Republicans: It is perfectly legal for us to use the Lt Governor's vote in the Senate to break a tie as to how the Senate is organized and we will fight this issue in the courts if necessary

Much better

You don't really expect any kind of consistency out of politicians other than that which will give them power and get them re-elected, do you? Both the Republicans, on the 90's, and the Democrats, today, are grasping at straws. The Va Constitution very clearly states the Lt. Governor will break tied votes. There are no reatrictions or qualifications on the type of vote the Senate is taking. Also, the argument that the Lt. Governor is not an elected Senator is hogwash, as well. He is elected President of the Senate and his duties INCLUDE voting in the Senate in the case of a tie.

BUT IT'S ALL OK IN DC??

Give us a break with this nonsense.

A vote is a vote; period.

The other side has been suffering through the last 3 years of this "garbage" and now it's unfair?

More reasons for me to switch parties in 2012.

give it a rest chris

What did anyone w/half a brain think the demorats were going to do. & if the shoe was really on the other foot, they would do the same. We the people decided to turn away from socialism & elected a conservative w/family values, like ours. & BTW Chris, we're not anti women, anti poor or any of that, we're pro women, pro poor, hell, we'll help anybody as long as they're willing to @least try to help yourselves. But unlike you Chris, you want to selectively help only those that help you & your cause, the what have you done for me lately types. So give it a rest, we conservatives won & your side lost. Maybe the results will turn around next time, but not now & hopefully not ever again. & they could've written this about Richmond or Washington.

Divide the country

I have an idea. Lets divide the country into two parts. Liberals get most of the north and Califorina and Washington state. Conservatives get the rest. We conservatives can then build fences to keep out the leftist scum and their socialist welfare state mentality. We can build a wealthy, prosperous, one nation under God while the liberals implode under their love of socialism and unions. When they come climbing our fences trying to return, well we have our way of dealing with that as well, due to the 2nd amenment to our wonderful Constitution.

Sounds familiar

Wasnt that tried before in 1861? If I remember my history correctly you came out on the losing side.

Tried in 1861?

No. Not the same. They were common sense, decent people (the South) wanting states rights and the other common sense, decent people (the North) disagreed. Neither were socialist nuts as liberals are today.

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