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Work at Chesapeake runway means more jets in Va. Beach

Posted to: Military Virginia Beach

The "sound of freedom" is about to change - and whether that's for better or worse probably depends on where you live.

Starting today, Fentress Naval Auxiliary Landing Field in Chesapeake, the main site local Navy pilots use to hone their landing skills, will be closed for repairs for at least nine months. While its runway is being fixed, residents of rural western Chesapeake will get a break from the repetitive roar of jet engines.

In the interim, fighter pilots stationed at Oceana Naval Air Station in Virginia Beach will practice landing maneuvers elsewhere - including at Oceana.

Capt. Jim Webb, Oceana's commanding officer, said residents living near the Navy's East Coast master jet base probably won't notice the change until the new year because few squadrons will be doing work-ups in the coming weeks.

Pilots at Oceana occasionally do touch-and-go maneuvers on the base's four intersecting runways, Webb said. But typically, most of the air traffic consists of jets leaving for and returning from training missions over the ocean or the Dare County Bombing Range in North Carolina.

That's going to change while Fentress is offline. At various times over the next nine months, some of Oceana's 17 squadrons will do the aerial equivalent of running around the block: As many as five jets at a time will take off in quick succession and fly in a left-handed, oval pattern. Each will touch down on the runway briefly, then climb back above 1,000 feet, circle around, land and take off again - eight times in a row. Each set will take between 45 minutes and an hour.

"If somebody is sitting on the ground here, they would count an airplane going over them 40 times in an hour," Webb said.

The landing practice won't be constant, but while it lasts, it will likely be more intense than usual for people who live or work nearby.

"Instead of having the occasional, 'I see four airplanes kind of stacked up here,' now there's going to be five airplanes, and they're just going to be circling, and circling, and circling," Webb said.

Navy officials met with Virginia Beach leaders to brief them on the increased activity at Oceana. Three periods - each three weeks long - are expected to be particularly busy as Oceana squadrons prepare to practice or deploy aboard an aircraft carrier. Webb said the busy times are expected to occur in late March/early April, June and September, but it's possible the work at Fentress will be finished before September.

City officials are emphasizing that the change is temporary.

"We've got to sit back and realize we're going to go through a little pain while they fix Fentress," Beach Mayor Will Sessoms said. "We as a city have always made sacrifices for the Navy."

The Navy emphasizes that pilots will be sacrificing, too, by leaving their families to practice elsewhere shortly before they head out on deployment.

Cmdr. Phil Rosi, a spokesman for Naval Air Forces Atlantic, said the Navy will send six detachments of Oceana pilots and support personnel to do field carrier landing practice in Florida while Fentress is closed.

Each detachment will last a week to 10 days, with at least 20 jets and 40 pilots from Oceana relocating temporarily.

In addition, student pilots at Oceana will sometimes fly to Beaufort, S.C., to practice landings there, Rosi said.

"We are trying to minimize the impact on the community," he said.

Residents around Oceana are taking news of the increased activity in stride.

"I'm not really going to complain about it," said Sam Reid, an Oceana Gardens resident and School Board member. "The folks around here are just kind of used to it. This happens from time to time with increased flight patterns. When it happens, it happens."

The impact will vary depending on the time of year. The direction of the wind determines which runways pilots use, so landing patterns are different in winter and summer.

During the winter, pilots primarily use two parallel runways oriented toward the northwest, with the most noise from landing practice likely to occur in the industrial areas south of Oceana and on the base itself. In the summer, pilots switch to approaching Oceana from the southwest or northeast, which places them over Lynnhaven Parkway and the Owls Creek/Seatack neighborhoods.

The June period may pose a special challenge for squadrons at Oceana, which try to finish flight operations by 10 p.m. It doesn't get fully dark until after 8:30 p.m., making it difficult for more than a handful of pilots to do a full landing practice session.

Webb said there might be times this summer when Oceana's jets are practicing until midnight. He emphasized that's not a decision anyone takes lightly. Having a squadron fly until midnight two times - instead of incurring the cost of traveling to Pensacola, Fla. - might be worth it, he said.

Oceanfront hotelier Jimmy Capps said he doesn't expect tourists will be fazed by the increased jet noise.

"The comment that I always get from our guests is they want to know what's going on," he said. "When I explain to them that there's a master jet base three miles from here, and they're training for their missions, they say, 'So be it.' "

Some jet noise veterans say they've learned to live with the hassle.

"It's going to be an annoyance," said Joe Ferrara, who lives near Oceana in the Cheltenham Square neighborhood. "How could it not? But we bought with full knowledge we were next to Oceana."

Ferrara suggested people take measures to shut out the noise.

"Common sense prevails. If it's loud, close your windows. Close your doors. That will reduce the noise by orders of magnitude. A lot of people stand outside and complain or they call the base. It's right now a fact of life: We live next door to a master jet base."

Kate Wiltrout, (757) 446-2629, kate.wiltrout@pilotonline.com

Aaron Applegate, (757) 222-5122, aaron.applegate@pilotonline.com

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If the secretary did utilize Oceana 24/7 to perform training

for our pilots how quickly would the 100,000+ people within the 75dB DNL contour line be requesting that the Secretary find a new home for his pilots? How many of these same people truely understand that the home field is suppose to be flying FCLP/touch-and-go operations at the home field and moving the excess or a balance of the operations to Fentress? When folks expect or demand that our pilots stop training FCLPs by a certian time, they are directly impacting what our pilots are trying to do at their home field.

For the rural communities, we were told our pilots did not have the capacity and needed 2 45-minute blocks a day. We see that if the planes are stopping FCLPs by 12am there is 5 hours of self-imposed waste of capacity.

It is not 100,000+, but about 33,000 people living

in the 75 dB DNL contour line. 100,000+ is out to the 65 dB DNL contour line. Based on the 2003 numbers presented in the Super Hornet EIS.

For a rural community, we have been threatened with the lose of our property both out to the 75 and 60 dB DNL contour line so the people around Oceana and Fentress can live in their homes and complain about when and how our pilots train. These next 9 months are demonstrating that the Secretary indeed does not require a 2nd OLF for capacity reasons, but wants one because of encroachment concerns. It goes contrary to the statement of, "if there was not a home within 50 miles.... Encroachment is not my problem, capacity is" during the 2008 OLF discusions.

No 2nd OLF is required, but is wanted by many.

Jet Noise

First off, if you don't live in VB then get the heck out of the conversation. It does not involve you. Your comments are counter productive, offensive and does nothing except waste people's time.

For the ones who live in Virginia Beach, just because someone was ordered to live on an aircraft carrier does not mean that you have to be ordered as well. Send your emails and concerns to the Virginia Beach government officials. This is not the only air base on the East Coast and government official CAN work out a deal with the navy that works for everyone.

since the secretary and hampton roads attempted to force

a rural community into a partnership with your region, it became our business. Also, it is our business to point out that our pilots are not receiving the training that Oceana could be providing them. Our pilots and many people in VB are impacted by a huge safety concern created by the inability of both the Secretary and the LGs to control encroachment.

Folks may feel they can accept the risk of a plan crashing into them, but the Secretary cannot. When a plane does kill someone, it will reflect negatively upon the Navy because it has been demonstrated that there is a problem. Same for the LGs. Both enabled and condone this by their inaction to address and take the proper steps to fix the problem.

Many were dragged into Oceana's problem.

seriously....

NO ONE prefers extreme jet noise on a regular basis. If this is true, your probably hard of hearing and do not have kids. You just say you do to prove your point. I am a proud American but do not feel I have to make the "I love jet noise" comments and/or own all American cars to prove this to you - although I happen to at this time. I am a tax paying citizen who abides by the law, works full time, and provides for my family.

Now back to the issue at hand. Yes, there is no room to argue that there is and always has been SOME jet noise in Va Beach. My concern is the increasing level of the noise, as well as the louder plane engines, and the ever changing hours of the day/night these things fly overhead. It's enough to have to stop a meeting at my p

Why 9 months?

I work in heavy duty construction so I wonder why it takes 9 months to dig up old cracked concrete, repack a foundation then pour and cure a new concrete runway? Yes, I understand there are other projects ongoing but to shut down a major runway for 9 months seems like a lot of foot dragging.

I was at Lynnhaven Mall and close vicinity most of this day

I saw many of the jets circling. If that noise is as bad as it gets I see no problem with the jet noise. If the noise gets worse I am still waiting to be told where I can experience it.

The jets are a miraculous site to me and I can't be thankful enough for them.

jet noise arguements should be a minimal concern.

Fidelity of training, safety and proper supporting the training mission should be paramount in these discussions. That is what the 2005 BRAC process looked at, the ability of Oceana to properly and safely perform the training mission to include FCLP training. That conclussion is no Oceana cannot. People living in an unsafe condition that the Secretary is allowing is not the Navy I served in and was never accepted. It is now because some bean counters are making a risk assestment that a plane wont crash around Oceana. When it does, no one is going to care about the noise, but they sure will care about the impact of the crash. Then it will be too late. The Secretary knows this and is gambling it wont happen.

Think Merimar two years ago.

not overcapacity

Oceana is not overcapacity rather the Navy stops bounces at midnight to be a good neighbor. If they ran 24/7 they could avoid going to FL. No good deed goes unpunished.

IN 2003 The secretary of the Navy opted to take 30,000 acres

of land from NE NC in preperation for this. In 2008, he was telling rural communities he "had to have this". Now we find out that he really did not need, but really wanted this 2nd OLF for this purpose.

He was going to TAKE 30,000 acres of land when he had the capacity to perform the missions here. 6 times to send planes to FL, in 2002, he told us that was a NORM. I knew back in 2004 that he had the capacity and would fall back to what he is doing now because this is the plan. He is making it sound like he worked hard to do all this for VB. Not really, it was always the plan.

For the NORM, he was going to take property from people. THAT is a major problem with this whole Oceana problem he has. Its abuse of power by the Secretary.

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