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Officials, educators divided over earlier school start

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VIRGINIA BEACH

Principal James Pohl at Princess Anne High School wants more time.

More time before state and other high-stakes testing begins in May. The way he and many other educators see it, an earlier start to the school year would mean higher scores.

And in the spring, Pohl finally may get his wish. After years of debate, Gov. Bob McDonnell has thrown his support behind repealing the state law that prohibits most schools from opening before Labor Day.

"The earlier we can start, the better chance our students have of being successful," Pohl said.

McDonnell could hardly have picked an issue with a hotter button for Virginia Beach. While Superintendent James Merrill said he's "ecstatic" about the move, business leaders in tourism - the city's second-largest industry - are gearing up for a fight.

"We absolutely feel that schools should not start until after Labor Day," said Nancy Marscheider, executive director of the Virginia Beach Hotel-Motel Association. The group will work "to let the senators and delegates and the governor know how much this will impact us."

McDonnell argued that 77 of the state's 132 school divisions already have waivers that allow them to open early, many in the western areas where snow regularly closes schools. None of the South Hampton Roads divisions opened before Labor Day at the start of the 2011-12 school year.

Officials in Suffolk, Chesapeake, Norfolk and Portsmouth also said they would consider adjusting their calendars if the governor's bill passes. None thought it could be done easily for next fall.

Harry Murphy, chairman of the Chesapeake School Board, said his schools could use the extra flexibility in their calendars to expand breaks and shuffle holidays. He and Kirk Houston, chairman of Norfolk's board, said local control is important.

And then there's the testing.

The state schedules its latest Standards of Learning tests in May largely because of a deadline to send results to the federal government, said Jared Cotton, an associate superintendent with Virginia Beach schools. The Advanced Placement and International Baccalaureate exam dates are set in May by national organizations. Educators worry that Virginia's late start puts students at a disadvantage compared with other states.

The flip side of the debate is economic. It was the tourism industry that in 1986 argued it needed the late-summer labor of high school students and teachers and a steady stream of tourists through Labor Day.

When the so-called "Kings Dominion law" was passed, the tourism industry saw an uptick in business, said Jim Ricketts, tourism director for Virginia Beach.

The numbers still support their argument, he said. In 2010, Virginia Beach hotels were at 87 percent occupancy in the third week of August but 78 percent in the fourth week.

"It drops 10 points because folks are getting ready to go back to school," he said, adding the concern is that starting earlier would push up that drop-off by a week.

Opening earlier means schools let out earlier, but Marscheider said spring tourism isn't the same.

"May is not summer," she said. "The water's not really warm. The high hot season is in July and August."

Officials of Kings Dominion, the central Virginia theme park, has argued that a repeal would hurt jobs and families.

Both sides have data to support their arguments, but the Virginia Beach City Council wants more information. Last week it decided to ask the legislature's research arm to study the statewide economic impact of an earlier start date.

"Would it really hurt tourism? Would it really help the schools that much?" asked Councilwoman Rosemary Wilson, who proposed the resolution.

There's still one group that hasn't spoken up this year, and it could sway the argument.

About a decade ago, vocal parents halted a Virginia Beach plan to expand the school year and bring students back before Labor Day for pretesting and teacher training. Under pressure, the School Board decided against it.

Lynne Lowe, president of the Chesapeake Council of Parent-Teacher Associations, said parents are torn.

"I hear a mixed bag," she said.

"Obviously, everybody really likes having that last little bit of summer. In the same token, when you look at test scores, there's a bit of a jump some schools have on our kids.... With my friends, it goes back and forth. It truly does."

Elisabeth Hulette, (757) 222-5216, elisabeth.hulette@pilotonline.com

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School Opening

Opening school before Labor Day is productive. The SOLs are given in May, 3 weeks before schools are finished for the year. Starting earlier would require schools to let out earlier, but the instructional time before the SOL Tests is longer. Every additional day for instruction before the SOL Tests allows the teachers to teach their subjects. Right now teachers lose 3 weeks of instruction because of the SOL Testing in May. A longer school year is not required, just adjust the instructional time before the SOL Tests and have the school year end immediately following the tests.

Tidewater history of school start dates

As a native of Tidewater before this law. I only remember a few time when we started school before September 1 ... If we did it was Aug 30- went to school made sure our classes were correct and get our books...

Labor day law could cause school to start as late as September 9..

At the present time if your child is in High School.. band, a fall sport .. football, cheerleadering, golf ... the kids are at school because the season starts the first week in August.. and the game are played in August..

Schools would get out around the June 12th and not the 18-20 if they started around sept 1..

It's Not the dates that matter

Changing the start date of the school year is not going to make SOL scores better. The only thing that will improve test scores and education in general is the parents placing a high value on education at home. Everyone from the politicians, to the school boards, to the teachers knows it. No one wants to hold the parents accountable for raising their children and being involved in the children's education.

this issue only concerns the schools, and parents of students

The rest of us for the most part should stay out of the issue.

The starting date is a non issue

It doesn't matter what date the kids go back to school on. The schools in Florida start back in August and go through till May. The public schools are still the pits there ! I doubt Virginia schools changing their dates will make any difference in the poor quality of education in the public schools here. Go ahead and flame me. I've had kids in both Virginia and Florida schools so I speak from experience.

SOL's

Starting school before Labor Day is NOT going to help students pass the SOL's either is going to school 183 days. If Virginia Beach adds more days onto the school year without increasing pay a lot of teachers will leave. It's already ridiculous to think that going three extra days puts us ahead of the curve. Let's work to improve behavior and increase parent involvement. Maybe that will help SOL scores.

Really - Masses of Teachers To Leave The Workforce Due To

Having to come back to work one week earliers, and potentially lose one week of vacation out of a vacation period that is almost 3 months long. HMMMM?

Teachers on Vacation

Know the facts first. Teachers are not on vacation for 3 months. They are on a 10 month contract. The 2 months they are off in the summer is without pay. If the school year starts earlier the teachers will still be on a 10 month contract, so their time off in the summer will still be 2 months without pay.

all smoke and mirrors to conceal the real problem.

Face the facts, high school kids don't work in the tourist jobs like they did 20 or 30 years ago. Busch Gardens and most others hire college kids, not high school kids. Further, it is not the availability of high school kids that control the tourist industry. It IS the availability of the school aged kids that DRIVE the industry. If your kids are in school you are not going on vacation are you? So you actually plan your vacation when the kids are out of school. There wouldn't be many tourist around if their kids are in school would there? School administrators are looking for any excuse possible to blame their failure on. Florida went to year round schools in the 90's and only has a HS graduation rate of 66.9% compared to VA's 77.6%. FACTS!

Tourism's Veto

I really do not understand why the Virginia tourism industry gets to decide the issue. This is about children and the future of the Commonwealth, not the bottom line of certain industries. Letting tourism have a veto on extending the school year is just another special interest prevailing over the greater public interest in Richmond. The school year, beyond state mandated minimums, should be a local option, period.

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