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House subcommittee shoots down Sunday hunting

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A House of Delegates subcommittee shot down abill Wednesday that would have allowed hunting on Sundays.

The measure, SB464, had sailed through the Senate, but similar bills were pulled by House patrons last week. The bill would have lifted a long-standing ban on Sunday hunting as long as hunters had the property owner's written permission.

A subcommittee of the House Committee on Agriculture, Chesapeake and Natural Resources first voted 4-3 to turn down an amendment that would have limited Sunday hunting to military bases and, for young hunters, to Wildlife Management Areas.

The subcommittee's chairman, R.L. Ware, R-Powhatan, called for a vote on the entire bill after a motion by Del. James Edmunds, with the 5-1 vote against  effectively killing it for the year.

Ware said supporters of Sunday hunting were well-organized and "certainly put forward a strong case."

But he added, "The hunters themselves are not speaking with one voice on this issue. We also heard from a number of people who said it's served us well to make that accommodation to nonhunters on Sundays."

"I did expect this," said Kirby Burch of the Virginia Hunting Dog Alliance, a group representing hunt clubs opposed to Sunday hunting. "A majority of hunters in Virginia simply don't want Sunday hunting. But it will be back next year for sure."

Proponents of Sunday hunting immediately cried foul, calling Wednesday's early-morning meeting an attempt to kill the bill as quickly and quietly as possible. They pointed out that the same House committee just passed a bill increasing the number of hours that hound hunters are allowed to use their dogs to chase bears on Sundays, providing hunters had no weapons - a practice similar to that of fox chasing.

"Sunday hunting in Virginia exists, just not with guns. This is nothing more than a slap in the face of the rights of property owners," said Joe Ficarra, a Virginia Beach hunter who two decades ago had himself arrested for hunting on Sunday in an act of civil disobedience designed to bring attention to the law. "Tell me how 40-some other states allow hunting on Sunday and they don't have any problems with this."

Matt O'Brien, who runs the Facebook page Legalize Virginia Sunday Hunting for All, had mixed emotions.

"This year has been a victory in the effort. From last year getting two votes, to getting 29 in the Senate and to losing by just one in House Agriculture shows that the tide is changing and it's rushing our way," he said. "What upsets me the most is that the other side wasn't willing to compromise one bit. We went from full repeal, to just on private land, to no dogs, to staying away from churches, then to military bases and Wildlife Management Areas for kids - the full gambit of compromise. And the other side wouldn't give anything."

Ficarra vowed that the fight will continue.

"I'm afraid that the only way to get this resolved is to test it in court on the basis of the Constitution," he said. "Because this isn't an old law. Shoot, George Washington probably died of a cold he caught while hunting on Sunday."

Michael Sluss of The Roanoke Times contributed to this report.

Lee Tolliver, 757-222-5844,lee.tolliver@pilotonline.com

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House subcommittee shoots down Sunday hunting

In recent years of Virginia Licenses increases across the board and still no Sunday hunting this crap makes my blood boil. These sap sucking politicians get away with robbery and leave tax payers and land owners in the stick up position.

Yet again Hunters get stuck with a Law that in it’s hey-day was payable with 50 lbs of freaking tobacco!

My 2011 hunting license breaks down like this: $79.00

$16.00 County City Resident Hunting
$23.00 Resident, Bear, Deer, & Turkey
$18.00 Archery
$18.00 Muzzleloader
$4.00 National Forest Permit

Note if I had opted to use my rifle or crossbow that would have been an additional $32.00 If you fish on National Forest Land you can carry over your $4.00 from hunting.

Many of you don’t understand my

House subcommittee shoots down Sunday hunting

If 270-270,000 hunters in states that don’t allow hunting told those feeble politicians, they weren’t buying hunting licenses. What are they going to do?

Were talking $70.00 multiplied by 270,000 hunters per 7 states. Because those other 6 states are going to follow Virginia….What politician wants to face that? Not a one. Money talks and you know the rest.

Somebody’s butt will be out of office.

To quote Thomas Jefferson

When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

Only our government loves money. Take away the money, then you have a toothless dog unable to eat a steak.

Sunday Hunting

What BS!!! Our elected officials, R or D, have little or no guts to pass a bill so many in Virginia want. This is not a constitutional issue but simply a statute along the lines of prohibition from 100 plus years in the PAST! I have not hunted for 30 years so no axe to grind with this issue but for reasonableness allow Sunday hunting on private property. Is it any wonder faith in our government at all levels is so low?

House subcommittee shoots down Sunday hunting

By Boycotting Virginia 2012 hunting season will get their attention by several ways.

1) Economically- Over 270,000 Virginians that’s an average of $70.00 per person. Not to mention Sporting gear directed toward hunting not being sold. That’s a lot of lost revenue for the state and jobs. Just as the Boycott in 55-56 40,000 people spending $0.10 to ride a bus in a city brought about change.

2) Rights of the Land Owner regardless if they buy a license or not which some land owners do they still buy material catered to hunting. And No man should be told when to hunt on land that they pay taxes on. Someday we all may become landowners what then?

3) Equality why should we pay $4.00 to hunt and fish on Public Land when Horse back riders, hikers

Unfortunately the clubs are behind this

And their goal would be for nobody to be able to hunt without being a member of a club. So, the idea of boycotting a hunting season would be exactly what they pray for every day.

The only way to get our politicians attention is to take away the people capable of providing them a pay off. To do that, every hunter needs to vote, and make their numbers known.

Politicians and their good old boy buddies need to be brought back to reality. Find out where the money is coming from - and ask the media to keep it in the news.

Why don't they just cut to

Why don't they just cut to the chase and just assign all virginians seats and worship times a local christian church. Outlaw all other religions and declare Dominionist victory

Aside from the underlying issue, this is one of the things wrong

with the House of Delegates and the GOP leadership.

I support Sunday hunting, as the ban takes away fully half my opportunity to hunt with my son and grand children, who work or are in school 5 days a week.

But beyond the original issue of Sunday hunting, this reveals a major problem with how the House of Delegate operates and exposes the hypocrisy of the GOP leadership. Assigning SB464 to this particular sub-committee was effectively killing it. That was not done openly and by vote, the leadership created this sub-committee knowing how it would vote and sent the bill to that sub-committee for that purpose.

So, we should not hold only those four delegates responsible. We should hold the GOP leadership responsible at election time.

Kirby Burch - how much money did your group give the politicians

Don't lie about it, just be honest. How much money did you give to get your way?

To say that Virginia hunters didn't want the bill to pass, and don't want to hunt on Sundays is a scream. You simply pulled that out of your backside.

The elite rub elbows with the elite, and they look out for themselves. It doesn't matter what the majority want so long as you have enough money in your pocket to make a pay off.

At least you can still drive

At least you can still drive down to Hatteras on Sunday and enjoy the beach....oh...sorry. You can't do that anymore either.

Hunting on Sundays

DAMN!!! the Virginia General Assembly... A bunch of SORRY CROOKS. They all need to IMPEACHED...

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