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Housing correction isn’t deterring agents-in-training

Posted to: Business Chesapeake Realty News

CHESAPEAKE

Sam Lowry scribbled notes at the back of a classroom at the Alpha College of Real Estate.

Jobless for almost a year, the 25-year-old Chesapeake native was trying for his second time to get through the real estate course, which he must pass to take the state exam for a real estate license. He took the class last August but didn’t pass part of the final test. After taking some time off, he came back to review and try again.

For Lowry, selling real estate represents an opportunity to leave behind the backbreaking labor of his previous job stacking soft drink displays at convenience stores.

“I figured if I’m a real good people person, it shouldn’t be too hard to be a middle person to negotiate between a buyer and seller,” he said.

It takes a certain amount of optimism to want to become a real estate agent in the midst of the biggest housing correction in decades. Home prices have fallen, sales slowed and foreclosures soared in the past five years. And agents have left the business in droves.

Since peaking around 8,000 in December 2007, the number of agents who maintained active memberships with Hampton Roads’ multiple listing service plunged to 5,800 last month, the Real Estate Information Network reported.

If he passes the final exam, Lowry plans to sit for the state test in a few weeks and begin working as an agent by March. The freedom of being able to set his own schedule and earn good money is alluring, and the current real estate market doesn’t worry him, he said.

“I feel like it’s capitalizing on the fact that a lot of people are getting out of the business,” he said. “One thing that a lot of agents and brokers are saying is that the market is picking back up. So I’m just going to put myself out there as an agent, and whoever calls on me, I’ll help them out doing whatever they need to do.”

Two weeks ago, Lowry sat alongside 21 students who aspired to become real estate agents in the classroom at Alpha College, just off Battlefield Boulevard.

The school is one of several in Hampton Roads offering the 60-hour course, which is required before individuals can take the $60 state licensing exam. The men and women in the class ranged in age from their mid-20s to late 60s. For many, real estate will be a second career.

They watched as veteran real estate agent Howard Williams wrote two dates on a dry erase board and asked: If a contract to buy a home was signed on Jan. 1, but the contract calls for a home inspection by Jan. 10, which date is considered the ratification date?

One by one, Williams pointed to each student for a response. Most answered correctly: The first date.

“Ratification date is the date that all terms were agreed to,” he said. “Does it have anything to do with contingencies? No. I want you to be clear and not debating this in your mind.”

Throughout the morning, the boisterous Williams quizzed the students on aspects of real estate law, such as how escrow accounts work and knowing when and what to disclose during the sales process.

“We’ve got two days of Virginia law,” he said. “I’m hitting the bullet points for you.”

The students, who spent $360 to take the course, already had spent two weeks under Williams’ tutelage. Only a few more days remained before their final exam.

Recruiting new agents has become crucial for the region’s real estate firms in recent years.

“You have to be in the recruiting business or you’re not in the real estate business,” said Dick Thurmond, president of William E. Wood and Associates.

His firm recruits heavily from Alpha College and other real estate schools. About 40 percent of the agents his firm recruits are new to the business, he said.

“We’ve got a really good new agent training program,” he said.

In addition to agents leaving the business, Thurmond said he’s also seen a drop in the number of people taking classes and getting licenses, partly because of the difficult sales market.

“It’s been very lean in the last year in particular,” he said. “The reality of it is, it’s a hard business. A lot of work, a lot of long hours. And it doesn’t come easy.”

But he said he expects the decline to bottom out this year as the home sales market stabilizes.

M.C. Danner, 52, also was among the students in Alpha College’s recent class. Before considering a career in real estate, the Virginia Beach resident worked for several years as a morning radio personality and as a casting director for a local voice-over recording studio.

“I wanted to try do something I could control my time a little better, instead of being at work all day long and all night long,” she said.

After she dabbled for a while as a florist, a friend told her about a local property manager who was looking for leasing agents. In order to be a leasing agent, she has to get her real estate license.

“As much as I’ve been in communications and media, I’ve never considered myself a salesperson,” she said. “I always find myself in situations where I’m getting people to cooperate together. And I thought, I love my home, so maybe it would be fun to help people find their home. Home is the nucleus of everyone’s life.”

Danner sees the current market as an ideal time to learn to be a sales agent. As she figures it, once she has her license and learns the ropes, she’ll be in a good position once the market picks up.

“It does make me nervous, because I’ve never done it before and it is a major decision,” she said. “It is daunting. But I’m a hard worker. So I’m just assuming that it will be hard.”

While many of the students were in midcareer transitions, for Bob Scott, 68, real estate will be his third and probably final career.

A Virginia Beach resident, Scott spent 21 years in the Navy, working part of that time as a pilot. After leaving the military, he spent another 21 years working for an engineering consulting defense contractor. He retired in August.

“I’m a firm believer you’ve got to keep your brain active, and this is an ideal business to do this in,” he said. “My other choices were stay at home, cook and make birdhouses.”

Scott’s situation also is unusual in that he won’t be starting from scratch. His wife has been an agent for 31 years, and he’ll work with her.

“My wife, having been in the business so long, she has an established clientele,” he said. “I’m just going to be the assistant gofer.”

Like the others, Scott is confident that a recovery in the housing market is around the corner. But he doesn’t envy new agents starting out in this market to establish a name for themselves.

“I think you’d have to have a lot of self-assurance to do it with no backing whatsoever,” he said. “It’s not uncommon in this business that you can spend six months without anything to show for your efforts. I think I’d be scared to death.”

Josh Brown, 757-446-2318, josh.brown@pilotonline.com

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This was an interesting story,

but more interesting were the comments, and my opinion of the commentors. All had opinions, many didn't really understand how the game works.

Every profession, or business, if you haven't dealt with Real Estate professionals had good and bad practitioners, my is no exception. Lots of comments talked about how information is readily available on Zillow, Truilia, etc. Unfortunately, much on those sources is dated. I know of instances where things were off market for many months, but still there. A lot can be accomplished with the internet these days. Who needs lawyers, teachers, bankers or real estate agents. You "can" succeed without them. It's just more difficult.

Con't

There are specialized requirements for all these professions. Do you know them? They apply whether or not you are using a professional.

The one comment that was mentioned, and I don't argue with, has to do with how we are paid. I would love to be able to charge by the hour. I expect no one who voiced that here, or voiced the commission too much argument, would agree to that. It means, when I meet a seller and talk about value, marketing and the legal requirements of selling, I could charge for that time, when the seller decides to try to sell by himself, I would still be paid for my service. When I meet a buyer, who is looking at coming to the area, and show him around. I could charge for time and expenses. That would be great!

So Much for Quality....

"You have to be in the recruiting business or you're not in the real estate business" - really? Perhaps if real estate companies focused on quality rather than quantity, the consumer might find better value in the role of a real estate agent. Brokerages need to start focusing on customer service and providing some substantial value or they will find their industry in the same dark, empty well with travel agencies. Most agents can't tell you what the absorption rate is for the local housing market; they can't tell you what economic factors cause fluctuations in the mortgage interest rate, and their negotiating skills are pretty much non-existent. Trulia & Zillow provide data and information the consumer wants; most brokerage sites suck.

6% Commission

I've never understood why agents charge a percentage of the sale price as their commission. If I pay my auto mechanic to work on my car, I pay him by the hour. Four hours of work gets him twice the amount of money than 2 hours of work does. So does an agent do twice the amount of work selling a home for $400,000 as he or she does for a home selling for $200,000? It has to be great to get $24,000 doing the same number of hours of work that would get you $12,000 simply because the home you're selling costs twice as much.

Auto mechanic?

Your auto mechanic doesn't drive you around in his car for six months for free. Real estate agents earn their money.

Why Drive around for 6 months

That's the problem, most Real Estate agents don't ask the right questions, just drivearound, show houses. most don't fit what the cusotmer(s)wants. it's a lack of professional salesman ship, lackof understanding how to take care of clients.

Agreed

If an agent is driving their client around for 6 months and they still haven't bought a house,

1. The agent has no clue what their doing.
2. The agent is so desperate for business they will waste their time with a client who is wasting their time.
3. They should find another job. Perhaps driving a taxi?
4. The agent never took the time to listen to their client's needs and wants.

Of course they earn their

Of course they earn their money. I don't begrudge anyone's earning money. I just think that the cost of buying a home shouldn't be a percentage of the cost of the home. What if you knew nothing about laptops, and you hired me to help you choose one? Would you be willing to pay me more because I had you purchase a MacBook Pro over a cheap, no-name brand? I worked for X number of hours, but charged based on the cost of the laptop purchased. Doesn't seem fair, does it?

Let's review. Feds have been

Let's review.

Feds have been injecting currency into the housing market. And the private Federal Reserve has been artificially manipulating interest rates. This has resulted in skyrocketing housing prices. But as much as it likes to think itself all powerful, government and its cronies cannot control capitalism, which is the exchange of goods and services between individuals. So market forces will eventually impose themselves. And interest rates *will* rise. This must drive housing prices down.

It's not just the housing market. Education, health care, anything government "regulates" ...

The establishment's only option is printing more money.

CITY APPRAISALS INFLATED OUT OF GREED

Most of the homes in my neighborhood were worth about two hundred thousand dollars seven years ago. A few people in the neighborhood remodeled their homes and then sold them for perhaps a little over the three hundred thousand dollar mark. A few of the remodels sold and the city said that since the tax appraisal for homes is based on recent home sales, that now all of the homes in the area were worth over three hundred thousand dollars whether they had been remodeled or not. This was done by the city out of sheer greed to collect exorbitant property taxes and now the disastrous result is obvious.

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