The Virginian-Pilot
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RICHMOND
A full moon, a high tide and a brief downpour can be disastrous for many residents in Norfolk's East Ocean View. Rising water from Pretty Lake, a tributary of the Chesapeake Bay, often overwhelms the storm sewer system and overflows the inlet's banks, flooding streets, homes and cars.
Much the same is true in Ghent, where the Hague often spills into the neighborhood.
The cost to fix flooding problems in those two neighborhoods, by installing floodgates and berms and relocating streets, is pegged by city officials at as much as $135 million. Add the Mason Creek and Spartan Village areas and it's more than $200 million - and that doesn't begin to address Larchmont, Colonial Place, downtown and many other flood-prone neighborhoods.
"We don't have that kind of money," Mayor Paul Fraim said.
As sea levels rise, the problems will become more acute.
So the city has asked the General Assembly to pay for a study that would recommend strategies on how best to deal with it.
Bryan Pennington, Norfolk's lobbyist, said federal officials have told the city that a state study is a necessary first step toward requesting federal money to pay for flood control measures.
"The state has been silent on the subject of sea-level rise," Pennington said. "That puts us at a competitive disadvantage."
Del. Chris Stolle, R-Virginia Beach, and Sen. Ralph Northam, D-Norfolk, have submitted companion bills (HJ50, SJ76) that would partially pay for a $138,000 study by the Virginia Institute of Marine Science, which would be assisted by Old Dominion University and the University of Virginia.
The bills have so far advanced on near-unanimous votes.
The study would not be limited to Norfolk. The bills call for a comprehensive study of flooding in all of "Tidewater," including Virginia Beach and the Eastern Shore, as well as the Northern Neck.
Stolle, who represents a portion of Ocean View, said VIMS would gather information already compiled by cities and counties, then present a report to the General Assembly by Jan. 1.
The problem throughout Hampton Roads is twofold - not only is the sea slowly rising, much of the land is slowly sinking.
According to measurements taken at Sewells Point in Norfolk, sea level has risen 14.5 inches since 1930. It isn't known why local cities are sinking, but Bob Matthias, an assistant in the Virginia Beach city manager's office, said the theory is that the huge amount of water being drawn from wells may be the cause.
Some say the global warming that's led to sea-level rise is being caused by man-made pollution. Others say it's a naturally occurring progress. Regardless, Stolle said, "Now is the time for us to see what we need to do.
"There is great work going on throughout the region on flooding. This study will bring it all together."
In 2008, the Environmental Protection Agency ranked Norfolk second only to New Orleans among East and Gulf Coast cities threatened by flooding. While the federal government has spent billions of dollars since Hurricane Katrina to protect New Orleans, it has spent only a few million dollars in Norfolk, most of it on raising homes in flood-prone areas.
"We have the Norfolk naval base here," Fraim said. "We have the ports facilities here. From a national security standpoint, the federal government should be very interested in protecting those facilities."
According to the governor's commission on climate change, Hampton Roads ranks 10th in the world in the value of assets threatened by sea-level rise.
Those assets include the homes of 22,000 people in East Ocean View, who could be threatened by the next nor'easter or a gusher thunderstorm at high tide.
Northam knows that well - he lives in the East Beach neighborhood in Ocean View. He also represents flood-prone Larchmont and Ghent.
"I hear about it from my constituents all the time," he said. "It's a major problem that's only going to get worse."
Harry Minium, 757-446-2371, harry.minium@pilotonline.com

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The climate change debate is over
"Some say the global warming that's led to sea-level rise is being caused by man-made pollution." Come on, Harry Minium! It's not "some" who say climate change is real, it's 99% of scientists and a majority of educated people the world over. I'm sure your effort at being "fair and balanced" was well intentioned, but you've effectively done nothing more than spread disinformation.
meteor crater
No matter if you believe in rising sea levels or not, there are a few things that we cannot change in this area. The biggest being that we are on the edge of a huge crater (underwater and filled with mud) from where a meteor struck the earth millions of years ago and helped create the Chesapeake bay. No matter what we do, the land is going to keep sinking in this area. It does not help that many areas that are flood prone are also filled with massive parking lots and roads that dip down into where puddles form. Norfolk is a prime example of "you made your bed now lie in it" due to terrible lack of planning.
Norfolk has a few aces in the hole
First, we are a major port of entry for goods from overseas. We are also a major coal port for export. There is a lot of infrastructure to support this.
The cost of dikes and other flood control systems like the Dutch have is minimal compared to relocating all the facilities to other ports.
Second, we are the major naval base for the Atlantic. Again, the cost of relocating all these facilities would eclipse a flood control project.
Not every neighborhood can be saved, but we can certainly protect many of them. The Dutch have been doing it for centuries.
What Are Norfolk's Priorities?
Really, Paul Fraim, Norfolk doesn't have that kind of money, really? You had that much money to spend on light rail. You have money to throw away on a new Waterside. You had money to waste on a cruise terminal nobody uses. Like your bretheren in Va. Beach, you can't say no to developers who don't have the public's best interest, yet you neglect your own people and their neighborhoods. Your lackluster oversight has brought on the CSB scandal, the HRT boondoggle, the inept HRPDC/TPO and all other manner of shame, including Paul Riddick. Why aren't your great economic development efforts bearing fruit?
and
Don't forget the perennially messed up SPSA --- that a certain developer friend we all know and love sat on the BOD and helped direct into default by being part of the culture of deceipt --- read the blogs and then ask yourself if you trust his evaluation of how to spend taxpayer funds
"SPSA 'blatantly' hid financial straits, lending agency says"
By Mike Saewitz
Scott Harper
The Virginian-Pilot
© February 6, 2009
http://hamptonroads.com/2009/02/spsa-blatantly-hid-financial-straits-lending-agency-says
"SPSA raises trash-disposal fees to highest in the nation"
By Scott Harper
The Virginian-Pilot
© April 23, 2009
http://hamptonroads.com/2009/04/under-fiscal-pressure-spsa-raises-trashdisposal-fees-highest-nation
Tidewater Flooding
It is very strange how Norfolk and other area cities continue to build homes and businesses in known flood areas with the knowledge that owners will have problems with flooding. Now our politicians and citizens want the Federal Government to pick up the tab for what our local politicians and builders have reaped the benefits of for years with real estate tax revenues and high appraisals. "History of Portsmouth, Virginia" by Mildred Holladay and Dean Burgess references old maps and flood planes showing how the City of Portsmouth attempted to acquire more taxable land by filling in natural hurricane overflow waterways and rivers. It's an interesting read for anyone who wants to understand why this area is so messed up, not just Portsmouth.
hmm
can anyone say unconsolidated sediment - the more mass you place on top of it and draw out from beneath it the more Norfolk is going to sink - storm water runoff does not help replenish the groundwater tables - you can throw all the money at it you want and the results are going to be the same in the end
http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=subsidence&view=detail&id=2D722507B77012C813F4DC7E42119571E8E55EFB&first=0&FORM=IDFRIR
here is a link to a picture in the Imperial Valley of California - a long long way from the "rising" ocean -
Yes, codes were slightly different before the turn of 1900
Point of fact, they have been intentionally avoided because Landowners, for instance, in Downtown Norfolk have been allowed to skirt not making prudent changes to sewage lines / plumbing. This is why thought I appreciate Northham doing something about it, it would seem if FED money is going to participate in making changes, at the very least, the City should follow the federal mandate. There is such a long standing tradition of carpet bagging in Norfolk's leaders and old guard, this smacks of further insult. Fraim's involvement in fleecing the FEDs regarding the Granby Tower, Winns attempt to displace the Army core from the downtown compound. It is insult and further exploitation given history. The code changes would be first step
What channel are you people tuned to?
This whole global warming myth has been blown out of the water. Several' global warming" scientists have completely backed out of this BS. Its all a farce to get you liberals to go along with more and more of Govt. control of your everyday lives. What kind of light bulb to use, what kind of car to drive,what kind of appliances to use in your home, sadly, the list goes on and on,total Govt. control of your life. Take a look around, do you see people keeling over and dying on the streets because of "MANMADE' gasses. Nope. I think the same crowd who believes in this global warming crap are the same idiots who fell in with the global freezing thing back in the 70's.
"manmade" gases
Tell you what - go out into your garage (door closed) with a 1970's model car and let it idle for a half hour - and see if "people are keeling over" from man-made gases.
I say older car because those crazy environmentalists & gov't regulations cleaned up car emissions so much that new cars often produce cleaner exhaust than what they take in. Unfortunately, the cars are still generating carbon - which warms the earth - melts the ice - and raises the sea-level.
Talk to the ski resorts with no snow about that global warming "myth"