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Pro-choice groups deliver petitions to Gov. McDonnell

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Pro-choice activists delivered petitions with 33,300 signatures to Gov. Bob McDonnell this morning, demanding that he veto any bills that reach his desk restricting abortion rights.

A combination of groups, including NARAL Pro Choice America and Planned Parenthood, displayed the petitions at a press conference at the General Assembly Building prior to carrying them to the governor’s office.

Republican efforts to mandate that women have an ultrasound before having an abortion and declare a fertilized egg a person at the moment of conception have drawn scorn from left-leaning television shows, including The Daily Show with Jon Stewart, which lampooned two House members Tuesday night.

The ultrasound bill would require most women to have a probe inserted into their vagina, some experts say.

Saturday Night Live and the Rachel Maddow show on MSNBC have also made fun of Republican efforts to restrict abortion. The Maddow show recently displayed a vaginal probe with “I can see the White House from here” printed on the side.

McDonnell is considered a candidate for the GOP vice-presidential nomination.
 
Former Gov. Tim Kaine, a Democratic candidate for the U.S. Senate, said during a telephone news conference called to address the abortion issue at the General Assembly that the GOP has provided "fodder for late night comedy shows and has turned Virginia into a laughing stock."

Republicans have accused Democrats of distorting the bill to whip up emotions and score political points. Nearly all women who have abortions in Virginia already have an ultrasound, Del. Kathy J. Byron, R-Campbell County said on Tuesday. A vaginal probe is medically necessary for ultrasounds for women in the early weeks of pregnancy.

Byron said most abortion clinics, including those run by Planned Parenthood, require an ultrasound before an abortion is performed.

A Planned Parenthood spokeswomen confirmed on Tuesday that women are asked to undergo an ultrasound to determine the age of the fetus. However, if a woman refuses, a decision on whether she has an abortion is made jointly by her and her doctor.

“There’s so much misinformation out there,” Byron said. “What the bill does is codify” what already happens prior to most abortions.

A House of Delegates vote is slated for this afternoon on SB484, the ultrasound bill introduced by Sen. Jill Vogel, R-Fauquier County. Sources who asked not to be identified said they expect Republicans may try to amend the bill to make ultrasounds elective rather than mandatory.

Sen. Donald McEachin, D-Henrico County, said making ultrasounds optional won’t satisfy Democrats. “There is no version of this bill that we will accept.”

McDonnell, who previously said he would sign an ultrasound bill, said through a spokesman Tuesday that he needs to see the final version of the bill before making a decision.

Anna Scholl, executive director of ProgressVA, an advocacy group for progressive issues, introduced two speakers at a news conference – Dr. Wendy Klein, former director of women’s health at Virginia Commonwealth University’s Medical College of Virginia, and Vicki Yeroian, a junior at VCU.

Klein mentioned the experiences of four women who were adversely affected by laws similar to the personhood bill, HB1, sponsored by Del. Robert Marshall, R-Prince William County.

She said the purpose of the ultrasound bill was to show women that there is a fetus inside their womb. “Excuse me, but don’t you think that’s why a woman is seeking an abortion to begin with?” she asked.

Marshall’s personhood bill could outlaw birth control pills, which can prevent the implantation of fertilized eggs, Yerion said. “As a woman and college student, I no longer feel safe in this state,” she said.

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WE CAN'T LEGISLATE MORALITY

My main opinion and again it is my opinion, not to be forced upon anyone, that we just cannot legislate moral issues. It is up to me as a parent to teach my child. If I want to teach my child that abortion is worng and should not be used as a form of birth control, and you want to teach your child that abortion is perfectly fine and should be used as a form of birth control, then so be it. My definition of pro-choice is when the person makes a willfull and deliberate decision to have sex or not to. It is not pro-choice when the sex is forced against his or her will. My opinion, that all too often we try to find an easy way out from the mistakes we make. I teach personal responsibility to my child. Teach whatever you want, I respect that.

Easy way out for mistakes

Family planning for couples is the modern blessing. That allows responsible partners to create a family that they can care for within the limits of their income and abilities.

There are times when such contraceptive methods fail, even for the most responsible people. But, for them, having another child is not an option.

It is much better to either take a "morning after" pill or abort (preferably early) in the first trimester.

After all, this is also when the bulk of miscarriages take place, which is a natural (or God inspired) abortion.

Typical Pilot bias

whenever there is an article about abortion, the Pilot ALWAYS gives more space to the pro-abortion side. The pro-life viewpoint is seldom presented, or if it is, it is given half as much space as the pro-abortion viewpoint. Pro-lifers are always called "foes of abortion rights" or other such terms. The liberal bias on abortion by the Pilot is the number one reason why I no longer subscribe.

it matters not...

...what the man's laws say when you stand alone before God.

Well, Pascal's Wager teaches

Well, Pascal's Wager teaches us that we can completely ignore our likely incorrect notions about what the gods or god may or may not want. Pascal's Wager is consistent, sensible and rational. The Christian bible is none of these things. Ergo, it is a folly to factor the supernatural into your decision making process unless you are trying to decide on what movie to watch.

AGREED

Then men should not try to make legislation out of morals, and let the one true judge handle it when that time comes!

I STRONGLY AGREE

You are so right, we can not and should not try to legislate morality. We need to teach personal responsibility and that starts in the home. We have too may parents teaching their child to go ahead do what you want and you do not have to suffer any consequences. Go ahead and do things with your body and don't worry about the outcomes. We can not legislate morality. We have to teach it to our children. When will our local, state, and national lawmakers get that. When I try to impose my religious belief onto you, all I have done is make me look like a fool, because I can only be responsible for me, you have to be responsible for you. I believe in God and when i die, I will know for sure if what I have been believing is true or not!!

What does NARAL stand for?

Hey Harry, what does NARAL stand for?

National Abortion Rights Action League.

Shouldn't you spell out the acronym, or are you hiding their priorities.

Hiding priorities?

A petition to have McDonnell veto these abortion bills is hardly hiding priorities no matter the names of the groups.

What do you think their hidden agenda was?

Having the state mandate an invasive medical procedure with a waiting period depending upon where you live in relation to the doctor is a lot more in line with hiding priorities.

Or how about the personhood bill that the GOP refused to amend with a protection for birth control?

Any kind of hidden agenda there?

In case it is not obvious, how about a precedent for banning all birth control.

Those 33,000 women had no hidden priorities. They just want the state to stay out of their wombs.

Simple enough whether it is NARAL or the NRA.

NARAL

Len, I think there is a big difference between using the words "Abortion rights" and "pro choice"

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