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Something's going wrong in Virginia

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By Skip Stiles

The legislature is set to repeal the one-handgun-a-month limit. I don't understand this at all.

Outside of collectors, do you know anyone who needs more than 12 handguns a year? Isn't a person who thinks he needs so many handguns someone to be avoided rather than pandered to?

Under current law, you can buy all the rifles and shotguns you want each month. The federal assault rifle ban expired, so throw those into the mix.

With all of this other firepower available, how can a sane person object to a limit of "only" one handgun a month?

(And assuming you are sane and need more than one handgun a month, you even can ask the State Police for an exemption from the limit.)

I grew up with guns. My dad was a national rifle team member in the Marine Corps. He helped get civilian rifle teams restarted after World War II and was awarded a lifetime membership in the National Rifle Association.

We hunted from the time I could lift my .410-gauge shotgun alongside his Remington 12 gauge. We spent weekends at the firing range. I am deaf in my left ear from banging too many rounds over too many years. There was always a loaded .38-caliber revolver under my dad's bed.

All to say, "I get guns."

My father eventually broke with the NRA as being too radical on gun rights. This legislative proposal continues the insanity that caused my Marine father to say "enough."

The other Saturday night I was at a gas station on Hampton Boulevard in Norfolk. Someone a few blocks away ripped off a clip from a handgun - anyone who has fired a weapon knows the sound.

Does this person need another handgun before the end of the month?

"Gun rights" advocates say these are legal and constitutional questions. They are, until this unidentified weekend celebrant with excess ammo sticks his gun in my face or shoots someone filling the gas tank, as happened two years ago at this same station.

I live in a community at the edge of some lawless folks. Many of them are armed. I'll grant them their one gun a month and glance around nervously under the neon of a gas station canopy as I fill my car's tank. But why do they need more handguns than that? What possible societal good do more weapons provide?

For those who have forgotten, the one-handgun-a-month limit was put into law after much study and debate. Its impact on exported "crime guns," guns used in the commission of crimes outside of the commonwealth, was dramatic.

The Virginia State Crime Commission found in 1995 that the law had significantly reduced the number of Virginia handguns used in crimes elsewhere. As a result of this law, Virginia dropped from first to eighth on a list of state sources of exported "crime guns."

The study also found that this law was not impinging on the rights of honest citizens to buy more handguns.

If you are a collector, own a business needing protection or just feel the urge to try out lots of handguns, there is an exemption process with the Virginia State Police, which approved 92 percent of the petitions to exceed the one-handgun-a-month limit.

The 1995 study concluded, "Law-abiding gun purchasers in Virginia are not unduly burdened by Virginia's one-gun-a month law."

This leads naturally to ask: If "law-abiding gun purchasers" are not unduly burdened by the law, who is?

I don't know for sure, but I hope the urban cowboy shooting near the gas station in Norfolk is, and will continue to be, burdened by the handgun-purchase limit.

In the debate on this bill to repeal the limit, Sen. Richard Saslaw, D-Fairfax, observed that anyone buying one handgun a month for the past 20 years, the maximum allowed during the time the law has been in effect, would have 240 handguns today.

"If you need more than 240 handguns, something is wrong with you," Saslaw said. "Something has gone terribly wrong in your life."

With the progress of this legislation, something is going terribly wrong in Virginia.

Skip Stiles lives in Norfolk with his family and a 20-gauge Fox double-barreled shotgun.

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Why would anyone need ...

- more than 1 meal a day
- more than 2 kids
- more than 1 car
- more than 1 house
- more than a high school education
- more than 1 loaf of bread a week

I'd ask the author: do you see the problem with trying to regulate what someone "needs"? Our state constitution (and our federal for that matter) are not set up to regulate your needs; they are set up to protect (not give!) your rights. You have the right to engage in commerce; why should you be limited to such commerce only once a month?

No, Mr. Stiles, something is going right in Virginia

Mr. Stiles is perplexed about the impending repeal of the “one handgun a month” law. He cannot imagine why anyone would need that many guns.

No, Mr. Stiles, at long last, something is going right in Virginia.

This issue is not about how many handguns a citizen “needs”. It is not about guns at all. It is about the government’s ability to place a quantitative limitation on a right guaranteed by the Constitutions of the United States and the Commonwealth of Virginia. If the government can place such a numerical limit on handguns, then why could it not place a similar limit on the number of times you are permitted to vote or the number of times you are permitted to invoke your 5th Amendment right against self incrimination or unreasonable search and seizure? A “right” which is limited by government is not a “right” at all; it is “permission” … easily granted and just as easily revoked.

If Mr. Stiles is really concerned about the number of deaths in Virginia, I would suggest that he support a government limit on the number of miles which each citizen is permitted to drive each month. That should be easy, as the operation of a motor vehicle is a privilege granted by the Commonwealth and not a constitutional right. Drunk driving, road rage, texting, et. al. account for far more Virginia deaths each year than do hand guns.

P.S. The “urban cowboy” will continue stick his gun in your face, regardless of any law. Criminals don’t care about the law; only

Another day, another law.

Something appears odd, so eliminate it via law. This is a problem of government.

And in cases like this, a problem of people who support the law as well. One can observe it in the writing: Do you know anyone who needs 12 handguns a year?

Since when is this about need? This isn’t about need, this is about law. In a free society we don’t require a reason for something to be legal we require a reason for something to be illegal.

“"Gun rights" advocates say these are legal and constitutional questions. They are, until this unidentified weekend celebrant with excess ammo sticks his gun in my face or shoots someone filling the gas tank, as happened two years ago at this same station.”

Notice the quotes on guns rights? That’s a sarcastic usage which denotes an inherent disassociation with the term gun rights. This I have to assume is coming from a person who on a basic level doesn’t even appreciate “rights” and “guns” together, yet felt the requirement of sharig life story on growing up around a gun appreciative family. And the NRA becoming "too"radical on gun rights being an obvious break from that.

The poor argument is formed from it. “Excess ammo.” That’s an interesting phrase too. Sticking guns in someone’s face and shooting someone filling the gas tank, these are already laws. Someone is so disliking of guns that those laws aren’t enough, laws like the “one handgun a month” are required for that person to feel safe.
That’s sanity t

Its one handgun a month, not 12 a year

The limit has not been a problem for me as I have a CHP. But it could be if i open carried and did not have the CHP.

Just as an example. I buy a handgun as a gift for my daughter on March 1. March 2, my personal carry handgun is stolen from my car while I am in the Post Office, where I cannot carry. Now, I must wait until April 1 to replace it. I am robbed at an ATM trying to deposit my tax refund on April 15.

Do such things happen often? Of course not. But honest citizens should not be limited due to the actions of criminals.

Hammer meet nail

Dr. Tabor writes:

But honest citizens should not be limited due to the actions of criminals.

That is exactly what the issue is here. Nearly every argument against the repeal of this starts out with stats about crime in places like NY. Keeping a lid on crime in their jurisdiction should not be the responsibility of law abiding Virginians, yet that is what is expected of us.

Since when does the Mayor of NYC have any authority outside of the bounds of his jurisdiction? Because I was born and raised in NYC, it appears Mr. Bloomberg believes I forever remain under his thumb, as well as stretching the boundaries of his city to encompass the entire USA. Everyone knows he is a megalomaniac, but enough is enough.

Criminal problems outside the Commonwealth should not be used to constrain the rights of the law abiding residents of Virginia. Period. End. Of. Discussion.

Now I understand

It is not about guns.

You hate Bloomberg.

I couldn't figure out why you had it in for our fellow citizens who don't live in Virginia.

I was raised in Brooklyn (we were immigrants from Sweden), but I left there when Lindsay was mayor.

But I still feel a cooperative spirit among the states would solve more issues. We were apparently a big supplier of weaponry for criminals in other states and the one gun per month, even with major loopholes for those who wanted to buy more, seemed to change that.

Since at least 2000, NY has had a lower homicide rate than Virginia.
(2010 we had 4.6/100,000 and NY had 4.5/100,000 so VA is improving)

That's just wrong

Look at where our country is headed...just look at it. Equality for homersexuals and other devious laws have been passed by our so called "progressive" president. It's only matter of time before he takes our guns and Bibles.

Seriously though, I need to buy more than one gun a month...especially after I run out of tin hats.

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