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Waterside proposals: What comes next?

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Five developers have proposed vastly different plans for remaking Waterside Festival Marketplace on downtown Norfolk’s riverfront.

Some call for tearing down the current building and redeveloping the spot into a convention center or a performance and sports arena. Others call for spending millions of dollars to renovate and repurpose the current building.

Each developer will present its plans in meetings with city officials this week, and City Manager Marcus Jones expects to decide which one to present to City Council by the end of March. The backgrounds and experience of the developers are as varied as their proposals.

 

The Cordish Cos., founded in 1910, is a Baltimore-based developer of mixed-use real estate projects.

The company proposed a $30 million revamp of the two-story marketplace. The makeover would bring 13 themed restaurants, and Cordish would operate what it calls “Waterside Live.”

Locally, Cordish is best known for the Power Plant of Hampton Roads in Hampton, a $95 million development, visible from Interstate 64, that includes Bass Pro Shops, Lowe’s and BJ’s Wholesale Club, as well as two hotels and a few restaurants. It’s among 27 mixed-use developments the company touts on its website – some completed, some still in the works – from San Francisco to Atlantic City, N.J.

The company also did an $86 million mixed-use project in Richmond called Riverside on the James, where Cordish built 240,000 square feet of offices, 122 residential units and 76,000 square feet of retail space.

 

HL Development Group, an affiliate of Norfolk-based Harvey Lindsay Commercial Real Estate, was formed in 1999. Since then, the company has developed more than 2.2 million square feet of office, retail and residential space in Hampton Roads.

The company has proposed spending $200 million to redevelop parts of downtown Norfolk and Waterside into a conference center with two new hotels, an office tower, a seafood restaurant and an expanded marina.

“We’re focusing on two economic development objectives,” said Bill Hudgins, president and CEO of the development group. “One is bringing jobs back to Main Street. And the other is bringing the tourism back to the waterfront.”

The developer’s local projects include the City Center at Oyster Point in Newport News, a 48-acre, mixed-use development with office buildings, apartments, condominiums, and retail space.

Before forming the development company, Harvey Lindsay also built Dominion Tower, downtown Norfolk’s tallest building, and numerous shopping centers across the region.

 

John X. Aragona, a longtime Virginia Beach businessman, has proposed turning Waterside into a broadcast studio and concert venue for “beach music.”

He wants to spend about $5 million to revamp the site, which would host nightly concerts.

Aragona is the son of John A. Aragona, who developed thousands of homes in Virginia Beach, including the Aragona Village and Princess Anne Plaza neighborhoods. Most of Aragona’s development experience comes from projects he worked on in the 1960s,’70s and ’80s, he said, including the Lake Placid and Magic Hollow neighborhoods in Virginia Beach.

In recent years, he has focused on producing beach music TV specials.

The businessman said he also wants to buy the Waterside property and spend $2 million to market the site.

“I think there was never anything wrong with that building, and it’s never been marketed right,” Aragona said.

“I want to prove that is the case. I’m not going after local people. I’m going after the national marketplace. I’m going to sell vacation packages with no strings attached.”

 

Drakkar America, a local development firm, has proposed tearing down Waterside and constructing a $375 million, 22,000-seat arena on the waterfront. It could serve as the home for a National Basketball Association team and host major performances.

The company is backed by David W. Tollaksen, a civil engineer who said he started the firm four years ago.

Tollaksen’s firm also pitched the project last year to Virginia Beach, which rejected the proposal partly because of the firm’s lack of development experience.

Drakkar also has plans for a $200 million horse track in Chesapeake.

“It is a fairly new company that hasn’t put stuff in the ground, but we’ve worked on a lot of projects collectively as a team,” Tollaksen said. “It’s the strength of the team.”

The developer said he has partnered on the project with Al Clark, a cofounder of the N.C.-based security firm Blackwater, which is now called Academi.

While Drakkar’s main proposal calls for revamping Waterside, Tollaksen said he also has envisioned a plan that would build the arena near Harbor Park. That version would cost about $600 million, he said.

 

Alvin James Development Group, based in Atlanta, has proposed building a $150 million entertainment complex to be called “Project Neptune III.” It would include a 150-room hotel, nightclubs and movie theaters, including an IMAX.

“Our primary focus is hospitality, but I have a pretty extensive background in broadcast and cable and branding, and understanding the elements needed to create an entertainment destination,” Alvin D. James said.

James, who also operates an events promotion firm in Atlanta, formed the development company a few years ago. In 2010, it announced plans to build a $350 million hotel in Atlanta. Construction still hasn’t begun on the hotel, which was supposed to be completed by this spring. James said the company still has financing and plans to break ground within 90 days.

Apart from the hotel plans, James’ firm has few projects to its credit. The businessman said his development team, however, has extensive development experience.

“We’ve got a couple other projects in the infancy stage that we haven’t announced yet,” James said.

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Reasons Waterside should have a longer life yet to live -

If Norfolk is inclined to saddle its citizens with a bill for more millions to knock it down and rebuild it what will it be foregoing by that choice. What about allocating subsidies to get Half Moon passenger terminal operating effectively? What about getting Nauticus into the mix.

I am convinced about the value of green building strategies as an important design consideration for all future construction. Waterside is barely 25 years old. With relatively minor alterations the space formerly occupied by Julian’s alone (more than 60,000 SF) could be transformed, for instance, into a premier restaurant and banquet catering facility. Simultaneously, that space could be marketed as convention center venue, larger than the Harvey Linsay plan.

Build the arena, get a major

Build the arena, get a major league tenant, get national/international exposure for Norfolk, and all the other stuff will fall into place. Plus, Fraim desperately wants a major league team to leave as his legacy.

NBA

unlike alot of people I know, i LOVE the NBA. its the best basketball out there. I would be thrilled to get an NBA team, and would buy season tix. The problem is that the NBA at the moment is flawed. The lack of a hard cap allows the big stars to control the league, and makes it nearly impossible for the smaller market teams, and even some teams in pretty decent markets, to be contenders. If you can't contend, your fan base usually dwindles. there are reports of many small markets losing money, and big market owners hoping the NBA folds several small market teams. Eventually, the NBA will figure out a system that works, but until then, it'd be pretty unrealistic to land a team in Norfolk, thus an awful business decision for waterside.

Along with "The Problem" by brikkman

I like the idea of brikkman where you work on a bigger vision to tie in the entire waterfront to Harbor Park and the new Amtrak (multi modal trans center). I think the Sheraton hotel and Marriott can still be the primary hotels tied into the development. The open park like land in front of the Bank of America building can be better suited to help tie in Waterside to the rest of downtown, a few key outdoor dining restaurants/stores and a nice open area with a fountain. If more parking is really needed then expand the existing Waterside garage or rebuid it to again help tie in Waterside with downtown/the light rail station down the street and MacArthur. I have the feeling that once Waterside is remade that empty Westin plot will be developed.

Sorry

Sorry for reposting so ofte.

Waterside

This is discouraging. First the city destroyed Town Point Park -- acres of sun-baked grass are hardly a satisfactory replacement for charming, shaded winding paths. Now it is looking to do the same to this unique piece of real estate. This is a rare site, and historic in the bargain. You can build sports arenas,recording studios, etc. anywhere. Please appreciate and enhance what is there -- don't destroy it!

Yes what Town Point Park is

Yes what Town Point Park is now is not ideal... but in time (trees don't grow over night) it will be lovely. The old Town Point Park was poorly designed and the soil was compacting the roots of the trees that provided that lovely shade to the point that they would have been dead or knocked over before too long. Oh and now you can actually see the water instead of it being obscured by the stage.

Demolish Waterside and

Demolish Waterside and expand Town Point Park. Add outdoor vendors, more areas to sit and play games(chess, volleyball, basketball, etc.)Rebuilt Waterside down near Harbour Park. There is amble parking already there, the light rail would go right in front of it, and the future rail station would be nearby also. Not to mention the people attending Tides games during the summer. Its time to look to developing that area and maybe consider building some residential high rise building in the area also.

Careful

Your plan has serious seasonal flaws. If you expand the lot, again, you have an even bigger park for 3500 who live in DT and parking for anyone who wants to visit. Waterside is the only viable thing there in the winter, the park gets absoutely no burn in the winter, just too cold. Also, the only way parks make money is with festivals, again, only good for hot seasons. I do like the idea of building more towards harbor park area. Honestly, with LRT and underserved area, that would make a hit, along with a high rise development like you suggested. Not sure what the flooding issues are, but we have to start thinking more conclusively like this in order to remake the DT area of Norfolk. Next thing you know they want to build a TC @ military.

Demolish Waterside and

Demolish Waterside and expand Town Point Park. Add outdoor vendors, more areas to sit and play games(chess, volleyball, basketball, etc.)Rebuilt Waterside down near Harbour Park. There is amble parking already there, the light rail would go right in front of it, and the future rail station would be nearby also. Not to mention the people attending Tides games during the summer. Its time to look to developing that area and maybe consider building some residential high rise building in the area also.

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