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McDonnell one of many Republicans in 2016 mix

Tired of presidential politics? Get over it: Upwards of 15 prominent Republicans are privately contemplating 2016 campaigns for the presidency — and the most serious and ambitious of the bunch are already plunging in, some quite publicly.

Don’t expect them to officially announce or even officially decide for many months. But Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.), Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal and House Budget Chairman Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) are doing nothing to disguise their presidential ambitions.

Jindal, the Rhodes scholar and new chairman of the Republican Governors Association, is making a very public case for a more intellectual approach to conservatism, accusing the GOP of being, in his words, “the stupid party.”

He offered a similar premeditated critique to reporters at the RGA, on Fox and in an opinion piece.

Rubio and Ryan, both arguably better positioned than Jindal, are also competing for the mantle of the high-energy, forward-thinking conservative. POLITICO has learned both will unveil new policy plans at an awards dinner of the Jack Kemp Foundation in early December: Ryan will begin a new push on a more modern approach to alleviating poverty, focused on education; Rubio will lift the curtain on an economic empowerment message, heavy on college affordability and workforce training.

That upcoming duet is one of the clearest signs that this presidential race is beginning as early as any in history.

Not to be outdone, Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.), son of Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas) and heir to his father’s libertarian following, is now on the record exploring a run that will focus heavily on returning power to the states. In a post-election interview with POLITICO, Paul said he wants to find common ground with liberal Democrats on softer marijuana laws and help create an eventual pathway to citizenship for undocumented immigrants.

These 40-something rising stars are hardly alone. New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, despite party grumbling about his embrace of President Barack Obama during the recent hurricane, has made plain that he plans to make the case that he has cracked the code on winning on Democratic turf. Christie has the perfect chance to take the temperature of big donors as he raises money for his 2013 reelection race for governor. He will do just that, friends say.

POLITICO has also learned that Rick Santorum is telling friends he wants to run again. Texas Gov. Rick Perry has said publicly that he might, too, and has begun talking to donors and other top supporters like he means it. And Jeb Bush, the former Florida governor with strong credentials on education and winning back Hispanics, has told advisers he will sit back to see how things unfold over the next year before deciding whether to finally give it a go.

Jeb Bush Jr., the former governor’s younger son, said Tuesday when asked on CNN’s “Starting Point” whether his father would run: “I certainly hope so.”

“You have this young crop, of attractive, successful, proven problem-solvers,” former Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour said. “Old guys like me have to get out of the way.” Barbour said the way to stand out in the field will be to help with the party’s 2013 and 2014 races. “We’re not going to wait till 2016 to set a strong new course,” he added.

This all might seem premature — and a possible big-time distraction for a party that lost the presidency and Senate and House seats this time around. But top Republican officials are encouraging the never-ending presidential campaign in hopes of creating influential national voices beyond Fox News and Rush Limbaugh. “On every conference call, the message is the same,” one top official said. “We’re going to push out our new generation of leadership. We’re not going to sit back and let the extreme voices define what it means to be a conservative.”

Republicans are still haunted by the post-election chaos of 2008, when, with John McCain diminished by defeat and few clear future leaders with national juice on the scene, Limbaugh, Glenn Beck and Sarah Palin filled the void — and dominated news coverage. This time feels different: Unlike 2008, when Republicans chalked up their defeat to a bad GOP ticket in a terrible post-Bush environment for the party, many of the most influential voices are calling for substantial rethinking of the conservative approach to politics.

They are reckoning with demographic trends that favor Democrats — as well as with exit polling suggesting the assumption this is a center-right country might be wrong, or was at least wrong on Nov. 6, when a center-left electorate showed up.

The danger, of course, is that Republicans get pulled into a bitter fight over the direction of the party, especially as more traditional and hard-edged conservatives jump into the race.

Republican sources said Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.) might want to fill the void on the religious right now and that Mike Pence, who just won the gubernatorial race in Indiana, has expressed interest in running, too.

Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker, who unlike Ryan won statewide in a state Obama won twice, also harbors national ambitions and remains a favorite of tea party conservatives.

For now, most of the media attention is on Republicans who can help the party adapt to the changing demographics, weeks after the party lost African-Americans by 90 points, Asian-Americas by 50 points, Hispanics by more than 40 points and women by just over 10. This will put a lot of emphasis on the small minority of minority leaders inside the GOP. Condoleezza Rice, one of the few stars of this summer’s Republican convention in Tampa, has told Republicans she will continue speaking out on the future of the party, which will fuel 2016 speculation. A Rice runs strikes many Republicans as unlikely, given her previous resistance.

Others known to be openly thinking about a run include New Hampshire Sen. Kelly Ayotte; two Western governors who are Hispanic, Susana Martinez of New Mexico and Brian Sandoval of Nevada; and South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley.

Finally, there are the elected officials who are perpetually looking for something bigger: Sens. John Thune of South Dakota and Rob Portman of Ohio; Virginia Gov. Bob McDonnell, whose term ends in 2014; and Ohio Gov. John Kasich, who like so many others on this list has made his ambitions known in private conversations with donors and activists.

Republican National Committee Chair Reince Priebus said in an email to POLITICO: “While the RNC engages in a serious post-election analysis of what worked well and what needs to be improved upon, one area that gives me great optimism is the caliber and quantity of potential 2016 candidates on the GOP side. The top names on the GOP side are talking about serious solutions and reforms to the major issues facing the country which will put the Republican field in a solid position.”

With all this activity, Jindal, Rubio and Ryan know there is little time to waste in trying to position themselves to be “the one,” the candidate who can lead the party back with conservative thinking calibrated to appeal to a changing America. Jindal has been the most aggressive, hitting his party hard in his post-election interview with POLITICO, posting an op-ed on CNN and offering a sharp critique of his party during last week’s RGA meetings. In the interview, Jindal urged an end to “dumbed-down conservatism.”

“We need to stop being simplistic. … We’ve got to make sure that we are not the party of big business, big banks, big Wall Street bailouts, big corporate loopholes, big anything,” he said.

Ryan allies believe that although his vice presidential run ended in a disappointing rout (with Obama winning his home state of Wisconsin), he has more celebrity, credibility and clout after the race. With his expertise and power in the upcoming budget fights, Ryan will be a central figure in the policy and political debates of 2013.

Rubio plays up his working-class roots and values as part of an appeal to voters making $30,000 to $50,000 a year — a group Romney lost badly but with whom Republicans used to be very competitive. That, combined with his connection with Hispanic voters, would make him a bit of an anti-Romney — the one card nearly every one of these candidates will try to play, however subtly. Rubio planted the flag in Iowa last weekend, setting a record at a Republican fundraising event. Look for him to flex his muscles in coming months in the other early states: New Hampshire, South Carolina and Nevada.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Where's the leader?

Jeb Bush?

Please.

88% white Republican party

88% of the voters for the Republican party were white. the republican party lost 94% of the black vote in 2008 and 2012.

Of course they will nominate another white male like Bob McDonnell or Paul Ryan in 2016.

Hilary will win in 2016 and Bob McDonnel will disappear just like George Allen.

McDonnell's career goals...

"the elected officials who are perpetually looking for something bigger: Sens. John Thune of South Dakota and Rob Portman of Ohio; Virginia Gov. Bob McDonnell..." Maybe he will run for president of Antarctica, with LaCuccaracha as his running mate. That's a lot bigger.

what is a republican these days???

They better firgure that out first, but hey, let them all run and make fools of themselves.

what is a republican these days???

They better firgure that out first, but hey, let them all run and make fools of themselves.

A 2016 mix of Republican misogynists, homophobes, racists,

ditto heads, teapublican fanatics and various and sundry other lilly white misfits.

Hillary Clinton shouldn't even have to work up a sweat.

HIllary

Don't count her out, just yet.

Clinton or Bush?

Tired of the same of ol' choices, yet?

We will do better.

There are others.

Hillary is done. Her

Hillary is done. Her chances went to zero with the terrorist attack in Benghazi. Besides, her skin is not the right color. She is too white.

Well, I guess being openly

Well, I guess being openly racist is better than hiding it in the shadows.

Now, please complain about the race card and how everything conservatives say is taken as racist all the while spewing racist bile. Dance for me ...

hilary and bill

Hilary and Bill are the two most popular politics we have and they have been for years. People REALLY do like them. They are far from done.

oops!

politican

Think he has the same

Think he has the same chances of being President as Gilmore and Allen. Well, more chances than Gilmore

actually,

he has as much chance as a snowball in hell. We will not let B.M.'s politics not be know to those who don't live in Va. That will be his downfall. The man is politically, done.

2016 will be a Democrat President - and the last one

"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the majority discovers it can vote itself largess out of the public treasury. After that, the majority always votes for the candidate promising the most benefits with the result the democracy collapses because of the loose fiscal policy ensuing, always to be followed by a dictatorship, then a monarchy."

The last piece on fiscal policy just fell into place.
Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner said Friday that Congress should stop placing legal limits on the amount of money the government can borrow
On Bloomberg TV, “Political Capital” host Al Hunt asked Geithner if he believes “we ought to just eliminate the debt ceiling.”
“Oh, absolutely,” Geithner

No other country in the world....

.....has a debt ceiling.

It's stupid.

like Greece?

"Greece is the economic basket-case of Europe, gone from junk status to even 'junkier'. The country's debt is 145 per cent of GDP and it is the ordinary people who are paying the price.

One-third of Greeks live below the poverty line. Anger has turned into violence and despair, and suicides have increased by 40 per cent since the crisis began.

Plummeting salaries and pensions, never-ending tax hikes and ever-deeper spending cuts have pushed the country to the brink of economic and social collapse. Queues at soup kitchens are lengthening, the number of homeless people is mounting, and critical medical supplies are in short supply."

US debt per cent of GDP 105% and climbing. Don't say it can't happen here.
"DEBTOCRACY".

If the right wing extremists

If the right wing extremists would stop manipulating the budget woes as a form of terrorism this would not be necessary. The tea party trashed our credit rating in the name of political theater and they seem poised to drive us over the fiscal cliff as an encore.

"The tea party trashed our credit rating",

and Va's Eric Cantor lead the way. Shameful man.

Oh - Democrats won a resounding victory

for President, for Senate and for House because of "gifts!"

Who knew?

I thought it might have been ...

1 .. GOP's massive failures in office 2001-2009, or
2 .. GOP's unpatriotic obstructionism 2009-2012, or
3 .. GOP's display of ignorance and mysogny on women's health, or
4 .. GOP's clown car of birther Presidential contenders, or
5 .. GOP's tireless shielding of the top 2% from small taxes, or
6 .. GOP's promise to return to cowboy diplomacy, or
7 .. GOP's "self deportation" immigration reform ideas, or
8 .. GOP's nomination of a clueless plutocrat for President, or
9 .. GOP's misguided demonization of most Americans as "takers."

Shows how wrong you can be. Must have been the "gifts."

speaking of gifts

Mitt Romney's 14% tax rate is a gift.

The Federal Government gave Mitt Romney $450 Million to start Romneycare. That was OUR tax dollars.

when you are wrong, you prove it

So what should the tax rate be to pay for the out of control federal spending now present?
Don't pick an arbitrary number of "Clinton era or Reagan era or Kennedy era" tax rates, give a studied number that will cause taxes (revenue) to equal spending now.

You and other liberals will refuse to give a percentage because no one knows. Until spending is brought under control with the elimination of programs (wait for the "what programs do you want to cut" diversion tactic) that are duplicative and obsolete, no one knows how much WE should raise taxes.

Let's go to the FairTax so taxes will be FAIR (unless liberals just want to complain).

you lost respect with,

(unless liberals just want to complain). And you do it all the time.

so "shoot the messenger" and ignore the message?

Are you saying liberals will support the FairTax?

The FairTax will remove "class/wealth" warfare. The only reason to object is the loss of control of using taxes as a blacksmith's hammer to tin out the desired shape.

Instead of ignoring the question, what is the tax rate needed to pay for the federal spending NOW?

there is something you need to understand

You want to argue, I DON'T.
You want to debate, I DON'T.
You seem to think that I owe you a response, but I DON'T.
I make my comments state my opinion, and that's that. I dont have to defend my thoughts to you, nor does anyone else.
We don't agree. OK????

that's the problem with not having discourse

I enjoy learning. I enjoy listening to other people's (especially those who disagree with my opinion) since that is the only way BOTH can learn.

I find those who appear unwilling to "defend" their position generally do not have a well founded basis of their hypothesis.

I imagine people with opposing views are speaking a foreign language and the two of us have to find the common understanding so we can talk at the same level. It works in real life.

People who resort to "thumbs down" without a comment are shutting their eyes and ears to only what they want to hear. I would rather enjoy learning.

The resort to chiding is to simply trying to get talk, if it doesn't work, then something else.

BTW - arguing is a no win. Debate is win.

yes it shows how wrong you are

1. GOP's massive failures in office 01-09 - and they were what? What failed policies did the GOP enact (not bipartisan, but GOP)
2. GOP's unpatriotic obstructionism 09-12 - nice hyperbole
3. GOP's display of ignorance and mysogny on women's health - such as what? Make birth control OTC.
4. GOP's clown car of birther Presidential contenders - and returners and pizza piers
5. GOP's tireless shielding of the top 2% from small taxes - does that mean YOU can't have a piece?
7. GOP's "self deportation" immigration reform ideas - isn't "back home" getting better good?
9. GOP's misguided demonization of most Americans as "takers." - no, just those who didn't "earn" what they take or are able but don't. Not "most". Don't you know the difference?

dick cheney also said...

Dick Cheney also said the deficit didn't matter. Of course that was when he and W were running for their second term of one lie after another.

The best argument against

The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.
Politics is the ability to foretell what is going to happen tomorrow, next week, next month and next year. And to have the ability afterwards to explain why it didn’t happen.

Winston Churchill

This is why....

....Churchill was voted out right after the war.

if refering to the quote, you are wrong (again)

Churchill lost because there had been no election since 1935 so the Conservative Party had governance and the Labour Party time to campaign. Churchill also lost because of his plan of Dresden fire bombing.

The Labour Party ran on "Hope and Change" to cause full employment, a tax-funded universal National Health Service, federal spending in the model of Keynesian economic policies, and a cradle-to-grave welfare state.
Great Britain is tremendously in debt, its medical care is rationed, and jobs are non-existant.
Keynesian spending only works when there is little debt. Health care works only when the providers are allowed to profit more than what they invested learning how to be providers.

Go to the FairTax to be FAIR to all.

Mommy, why are Republicans so mean?

Shoes too tight?

The candidate needs to change the branding

NJ Governor Christie is not a conservative but he is well respected and NEEDED because he pushes back.

Conservatives needs someone who can tell a joke with the punchline being a liberal Democrat. Conservatives needs someone who can go cheek-to-cheek with Jon Stewart and have Stewart's audience applaud and laugh.

Until the GOP leadership realize they didn't lose because of Akins, abortion, talking about self-deportation (what is wrong with that since that means the life the illegal immigrant left has improved), or illegal immigrants. The GOP lost the senate and presidency because of branding. It wasn't that was said, but rather what the public was TOLD WHAT THEY SAID MEANT!

Change the branding by shaping the image for reality.

And the clock is running

Another semi-interesting facet of the soul-searching ongoing in the GOP. Consider for the pols named above:

One, they gotta formulate a message that will work for the rank-and-file and the donors. So far, the Tea Party and the social conservatives don't seem inclined to go gentle into that good night, which oughta make any emerging GOP populism process nice and complicated.

Two, they can't be identified to, or at least have a limited stain from, the toxic Republican message stew concocted for 2012. That condition is not only to be likely a near single-digit subset of the GOP membership, it's also gotta be a Superfund-level clean-up effort by the GOP considering how much money was spent spreading it around recently.

amen to what you said

The solution to "super PAC" bombarding us with non-stop commercials and phone calls is to change the electoral college award process.

The problem is Super PACs are needed since massive amounts of money has to be spent in "swing states". That is not good or bad, it is just is.

Each state should adopt a version of Nebraska and Maine's award system that give electoral college award based on who wins that congressional district.
There are 538 electors. Each state and District of Columbia has at least one for the House representative and two for the senators.
How about this version: one for the winner of the congressional district(s), one for the party of the governor, and one for the state's popular vote.
Spread the commercials around.

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