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Doesn't run in Fla. Stalled at ODU. Now maglev maven is in Georgia.

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Tony Morris told an Atlanta newspaper he plans to repay a $7 million loan he got from Virginia for the ODU project.

(Calvin Cruce/Atlanta Journal-Constitution)

By DEBBIE MESSINA
The Virginian-Pilot

The Georgia businessman behind the ill-fated maglev train at Old Dominion University is testing his magnetic levitation ideas again - and claiming his newest vehicle, outside Atlanta, has reached speeds of 60 mph.

ODU researchers, who are still trying to make the Norfolk train run properly after $16 million has been spent on the project, said they find such a speed hard to believe.

Thomas Alberts, an aerospace engineering professor leading the research, said it's unlikely the vehicle could reach that speed and then return to a stop on its 2,000-foot track, which is much shorter than ODU's 3,200-foot elevated guideway.

Tony Morris and his company, American Maglev, pulled into Virginia nearly a decade ago with a promise of a quiet, affordable, high-tech system that would whisk passengers around and attract international attention as the world's first commercial maglev system. The train was supposed to begin transporting passengers across campus in 2002.

Two years later, it still wasn't working properly. The train levitated and moved, but instead of floating on a cushion of air, it bumped, rattled and vibrated. Morris left, and ODU took over the project.

Before coming to Norfolk, Morris had a test track in Volusia County, Fla. He accepted local tax dollars there and made promises of technology jobs but later abandoned that site.

Once he left Norfolk, there were overseas media reports of Morris vying to land big contracts in places such as Pakistan.

Some maglev enthusiasts say Morris has given the technology a black eye in this country.

"We call him whack-a-mole," said Phyllis Wilkins, referring to a popular arcade game. "He pops his head up, then goes underground and pops his head up someplace else."

Wilkins, who manages a maglev pilot project in the Baltimore-Washington area that uses a different technology, said Morris "makes audacious claims about what his technology can do... and never delivers."

Unlike in his previous ventures, Morris is operating in Georgia with little fanfare. In fact, Morris told the Atlanta Journal-Constitution in an interview published last week that he was trying to keep his latest experiment under wraps, but the elevated track and futuristic vehicle piqued the interest of passers-by.

He claimed his newest vehicle has reached speeds of 60 mph on the test track in Powder Springs, just outside Atlanta.

No one from ODU's maglev team has visited American Maglev's new facility. Based on pictures in the Atlanta paper and others posted on blogs and the company's Web site, it appears that significant money has been invested, Alberts said.

"It's a little surprising, with the record that they have, that they still have people backing them," he said.

Morris declined to be interviewed.

Tad Leithead, a Georgia businessman, recently toured Morris' new operation. He said he was aware of Morris' interest in maglev but was surprised to find him "operating a maglev system sitting 10 miles from my office."

"I went out there, got on it and it levitated, which is pretty cool," Leithead added. "We didn't go forward, but he's invited me back to ride it some time. For some reason, they were not moving it that day."

Leithead also chairs the Cumberland Community Improvement District, which has invested $875,000 to help pay for a $10 million study of high-speed travel between Atlanta and Chattanooga. Maglev is one of the options under consideration.

"The technology itself has a little bit of 'Star Wars' to it," he said. "Many say, 'You're kidding, that can't possibly work.' But the fact is, it's working in at least one place in the world."

Shanghai, China, has a commercially operating system that carries passengers about 18 miles to its airport at speeds topping 250 mph.

Leithead said that when the time comes to choose a technology, any system, including American Maglev's, would have to demonstrate that it is technically and financially sound and reliable.

At ODU, maglev is no longer a transportation system, but a research project with a goal of producing a low-cost prototype.

The university's Office of Research last year invested $94,000. ODU officials say the train could be years and millions of dollars away from being usable as mass transit.

Alberts and his team succeeded in levitating a test sled in a campus laboratory and briefly levitated and moved the full vehicle on the guideway, without any shaking and vibrations, before having to temporarily suspend work because of nearby construction.

Alberts said he hopes this summer to improve the alignment of the track and operate a test sled on it. But progress is slow.

"We're working here with tens of thousands of dollars," Alberts said. "In a million-dollar business, you don't go very fast with tens of thousands of dollars."

He said he wouldn't be surprised if American Maglev moves faster in its development because it has more resources.

"If Tony Morris can develop and demonstrate the technology, it contributes to the same goal we have of getting a viable maglev technology out there," said Jeremiah Creedon, ODU's director of transportation research.

Morris told the Atlanta paper that he hasn't forgotten his debt to Virginia taxpayers. He said he plans to repay a $7 million loan from the state for the ODU project with revenue from a working project in Virginia sometime in the future.

  • Reach Debbie Messina at(757) 446-2588 or debbie.messina@pilotonline.com.


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    News Flash!!! To SM Montreal

    Students should be capable of making a 3200 ft walk instead of riding an $18m maglev.Think real hard and you'd realize that close to 200 or more students could have received free tuition for the same $18m.Where do you think the money from Lockheed and Dominion Power came from? I'll give you a hint...Lockheed is a big defense contractor (their major customer is the US Military) Dominion Power supplies power (we are their customer,so their donation is paid for by the elevated cost of power).Now that you've got a clue,let's do some geography! You're in Canada, which means you depend on the US for much of your country's defense. That means the money Lockheed has given this worthless project could lessen the defense of your country also. Now a lesson in energy. A maglev runs off electricity, that cost money, a student needs some exercise and walking the 3200 feet could fit that bill and a side benefit of the walk is that it could clear their heads so they might even stay awake for class.

    Here's a thought!

    Isn't ODU supose to have a good engineering program? Why not use the students in that program to figure it out and fix it. The school would finally get this thing moving and the students would learn what to do and what not to do. The Meglev is a joke, but the origional person involved is a great salesman.

    ODU vs. Shangai Maglev

    Does anyone here actually read the articles before posting? It amazes me at how quick people spout off half-truths, misinformation, or just completely nonsensical utterances on issues that they clearly have no grasp.

    Ethan, - In principle, I agree with you, but the maglev technology used in China was developed and built by the Germans and then shipped to China.

    Kevin D. - The Shanghai maglev technology is completely different to that of ODU, the primary difference being cost. The 18 miles of the Shanghai system costs well over one billion dollars, not twenty million.

    Funding - The $16m that has been spent did not all come from taxpayers. Several million of that came from Dominion Power, Lockheed, and other private investors.

    Michael - Energy costs are one of the driving factors behind maglev's development. The almost total elimination of mechanical friction due to the levitating train massively reduces the energy costs needed to propel it compared to other types of transpo

    whose money?

    I don't care if the federal government, the state or ODU paid for this--it is MY tax money! And shame on ODU for spending another cent. The focus needs to be education not adult play toys. Just think of the scholarships this could provide. Turn the track into a raised sidewalk (these kids need some exercise anyway). And instead of someone hunting this guy down to repay the money he owes we are letting him con some more people somewhere.

    Monorail! Monorail!

    It's a wonderful idea to which The Simpsons dedicated an entire episode years ago. Who knew that a cartoon would predict reality so well?

    Uhh

    Much of the ODU Maglev track was funded by outside sources such as Lockheed, Dominion Power and the state gov't. The system in Shanghai has a high cost per foot I believe, as the "logic" is in the track and not the car. We should all support Alberts and the ODU project. It's just a shame that ODU couldn't have been given the entire project themselves without the involvement of American Maglev. American Maglev did have the car moving with a guideway on the ground, and teh technology is not star wars, it's from the 70's or earlier. Perhaps we should just let China RnD, design, develop and sell maglev trains since Americans can't do anything anymore. China will get it right and it will be cheap. Everything Americans make is no good, right? Dwindling number of machinists, and more and more of our "Americna" companies send all R&D to India, Russia and other countries.

    Learn from others

    If ODU wants to implement a transportation system of this nature (or one that can cover an even larger area), all the admin. must do is replicate the efficient, first-of-its-kind PRT (Personal Rapid Transit) system the outstanding West Virginia University has been utilizing for decades. The PRT has essentially enabled WVU to have two campuses - Downtown and Evansdale. ODU should take a page out of WVU's progressive playbook.

    Benchmark?

    In manufacturing, it is ok to "steal shamelessly" what is public domain or a technology which is not proprietary. This is called "Benchmarking" and is in use everywhere. Once someone comes up with a technology, everyone who wants can deal with the developer and negotiate use of the technology. Why would anyone try to develop their own inferior technology when a superior one is available at a realatively small cost? If a system is working in Shanghai there is nothing to develop. Buy the rights to the best technology and then if you see opportunity to improve it once you understand it, it's yours to do so. This is a waste of tax dollars. No one in the commercial arena could afford to use funds this way.

    Who's money was spent

    I think the comments listed previously are a little distorted. ODU did not spend 16 million on the Train. That money came from both Federal and State Tax Dollars not money from ODU. Since assuming full control of the project ODU has spent about 200,000 on the project. So if ODU can provide this technology and make it work.. why not ...

    Transportation dollars wasted

    In a state that it pressed for transportaion money it is unbelievable that the Attorney General's office has not pursued Morris for the repayment of this money. Actually if one did a little research you would find that the state contributed more than $7 million to this ill conceived project. It appears that Morris knew how to make money for himself leaving behind a horrible eyesore and an unpaid debt for the VA taxpayers. Several legislators were very supportive of this venture and are now very quiet about its failure. I think the press needs to do more research on this issue; it doesn't pass the smell test.

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