The Virginian-Pilot
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NORFOLK
South Hampton Roads' housing prices fell 13 percent over the past year, but in Norfolk, real estate tax assessments haven't kept pace.
The city assessor told City Council members last week that the average assessment declined only 1.35 percent.
That distressed some council members, who worry that Norfolk's assessments don't reflect true market values and who are now pushing for the city to change the assessment process.
"It's frustrating for people," Councilman Barclay C. Winn said, adding that many residents whose homes are now worth less haven't received any tax relief. "They haven't seen any decrease in their assessments."
That's in part because Norfolk uses older sales data than the four other cities in South Hampton Roads, leaving it further behind the curve in tracking real estate trends.
Real estate Assessor Deborah Bunn said newer data wouldn't make that much of a difference in assessments - a contention backed up by numbers from the rest of South Hampton Roads.
Residential assessments fell 4 percent in Virginia Beach, 1.8 percent in Chesapeake, 1 percent in Suffolk and less than 1 percent in Portsmouth.
Councilman W. Randy Wright said he doesn't care. He still wants the most up-to-date data possible, and Councilman Don Williams agreed.
"I think it would be the will of the council to do what it takes get this done," Williams said. "The closer we can get to today's market, the better off we are."
Norfolk considered sales from July 1, 2007, through June 30, 2008, for its most recent batch of reassessments. Chesapeake, Portsmouth and Suffolk used data from Jan. 1, 2008, through Dec. 31 - six months later than Norfolk. Virginia Beach cuts off sales the first week in December.
Mayor Paul Fraim, like many other council members, said he hadn't realized that Norfolk's process puts it behind.
"I thought we were in line with our neighboring cities," he said.
In order to move its assessment dates, Norfolk would need a new computer system and more employees. The city's philosophy on customer service also would have to change, Bunn said.
Bunn said the other cities mail their assessments in late March. Norfolk begins mailing assessments in October, continuing through March. That gives her staff far more time to deal with the 20,000 phone calls and 4,000 office visits it receives from citizens, she said.
"But we certainly will do whatever the council wants us to do," she said.
Bunn said in the recent reassessment, about 20 neighborhoods in Norfolk experienced declines between 3 and 23 percent.
Condominiums in downtown and Ocean View took the biggest hit. Single-family home values in some Ocean View neighborhoods also fell.
Bunn added that some neighborhoods remain underassessed. An analysis of the Fox Hall neighborhood showed assessments there were at only 85 percent of market value.
When the state last evaluated Norfolk in 2007, it found that assessed values were at 75.8 percent of market value, she said.
That's not much comfort to Jan Cloud. She said housing values have plummeted in the blocks surrounding her Ghent home.
Yet Cloud's assessment fell by $500 to $726,700.
"I've talked with Realtors," she said. "And there's no way I can sell this house for $700,000."
Bunn said Cloud or others with questions should call her office.
For his part, Winn said he remained frustrated.
"Housing prices were falling last year, and we were
told that would all be reflected in this year's assessments," he said. "It's a year later, and
the losses our citizens have experienced still aren't reflected.
"There has to be a way for us to update these assessments more quickly."
Harry Minium, (757) 446-2371, harry.minium@pilotonline.com

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What a crock!
"Mayor Paul Fraim, like many other council members, said he hadn't realized that Norfolk's process puts it behind.
"I thought we were in line with our neighboring cities," he said.
In order to move its assessment dates, Norfolk would need a new computer system and more employees. The city's philosophy on customer service also would have to change, Bunn said."
Mr. Mayor, that's what you get for thinking!! This isn't only ignorant, it's also CRIMINAL! The assessments were purposely done with old data, to keep the revenue coming in, and that folks, is nothing short of robbery. The taxpayers are being robbed blind in Norfolk and guess what, we're sick of it! That's why people want out of this run down, gang infested rat hole...if only we could sell our homes without having to take a loss!
And yes, before anyone says it, as soon as my husband retires from the military, we are running as fast as we can out of this ungrateful city, and state! Our tax money will be much better spent elsewhere!
Guess I got screwed
If values dropped, how come my assessment went up over last year. I live in Roosevelt Gardens, nothing fancy, just your average house. Am I making up for those that live in million dollar homes whose assessments came down?
the state
Needs to pass a law that forces the City to buy a homeowners property at the assessed value if the homeowner so chooses. That would put an end to this over assessment. My property goes up 26 and 32 the last 3 years and then stays the same when this article says the value dropped 13 per cent last year. Give me a break. It's time for an investigation by the State Police.
It's The Process
The city assesser has a timetable to do our assessments and it relies on a certain timeframe of "sold" comparable properties. Unfortunately, the timefram is too far in the past to be of any use to us. Using 2007 and 2008 data in 2009 is what the problem is. At the rate, they are going it will take several years for the market to reflect the lower prices and by then the prices will stabilize and start going back up. Then, mysteriously our assessments will rapidly go up! Now you get it...sticky going down...slick going up! Pay your money!
okkidder - there isn't
okkidder - there isn't really a rebound. Sure the stock market went up and newspaper trumpets we're coming out of this, but the job losses are still increasing and there is no way that the American population can consume like they were during the housing mania without all the crazy credit non-sense. So most likely it's a dead cat bounce. On a blog I read about the housing bubble, someone already showed a list of various newspaper headlines in past bubbles and the same thing happened. It goes down, then looks like it's getting better, then drops more, rinse, repeat. Dead cat bounce I believe it's called. Gov't grew with the mania and is now reluctant to shrink.
how about this....
if a property sells for less than assessed value, the city rebates to the seller the tax overpayment for, say, the last five years.
If this happened enough, and in addition these rebates reduced assessor's office's budget, maybe they could figure a way to upgrade the computer system.
It's funny how Mz Bunn is quick to fire back facts and figures about underassessed neighborhoods, but nothing but lame excuses in regards to overassessments.
I had an assessor make a housecall last year - he spent about five minutes inspecting the house and over an hour boring my wife an I with his personal life story. We spent $500 for an independent appraisal and got the assessment reduced $130k, although this was still less than the appraisal. We appealed to the Board of Equalization, which was a total joke, so we'll try again this year.
Mismanaged
Yet another example of a mismanaged city. It is definitely time to put fresh blood into our city's government. We, as citizens, must remember that we must vote in the best people for the job... not the ones whose names we recognize or who have the flashiest campaigns. If we want positive results, we must do our civic duty and find the best candidates for the jobs.
Who can believe all thesze lies?
These 'public servants' are lieing, the newspaper can't get the facts, reports the facts and continue to cater to the corruption of this city politics, the assessors are just the scape goats. Our Property assessments are way overboard! And let's pitty that home owner in Ghent how can they complain about their assessment when the ghent streets get paved (nedded or not) every three years. Absolutely smooth and clear, no pot holes, patches, etc, just vsiit the area aroun the fred huette center, incredible streets. How many remember in recent history that a Norfolk Judge was so upset with his unjustifiable assessment he attended a council meeting and complained only to be pampered and personnally escorted to the mayor's office to resolve his greivance? I remember that everytime i call the assessors office but, well you know, i don't live on the west side. Let's vote 'em out May 2010!!
Just the beginning
This is just the beginning of what is about to transpire. Looks like the citizens of the USA are about fedup with all of the shenanigans the politicians use on a daily basis. Hmmmm What will be the proverbial straw that breaks the camels back I wonder.
Assessments are HIGH and they will stay HIGH says city coucil.
Taxes vs Pay
Maybe they should reduce Bunn's pay to reflect the difference that she says would not make that much of a difference and see how much it cost!!! Then listen to the excuses as to why it could not be done. Remember with any computer the old saying Garbage in Garbage out!!.