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SARGODHA, Pakistan
Five young American Muslims arrested in Pakistan met with representatives of an al-Qaida-linked group and asked for training but were turned down because they lacked references from trusted militants, a Pakistani law enforcement official said Thursday.
Another senior officer said the men wanted to fight jihad, or holy war, in northwestern Pakistan and against American troops in Afghanistan.
The young men apparently first tried to contact jihadist groups through Facebook and YouTube, then traveled to Pakistan to attempt personal meetings, a Pakistani diplomat in Washington said.
The case is another worrisome sign that Americans may be susceptible to recruitment to terrorist networks from within the United States. It comes on the heels of charges against a Chicago man accused of plotting international terrorism.
Yet in contrast to the Chicago case, police say the five captured in Pakistan failed to catch on with any terror network, and succeeded only in raising suspicions among locals, who reported them to Pakistani police.
U.S. officials in Pakistan have now visited the men in custody. Their disappearance from the Washington, D.C, area late last month — with one of them leaving behind a militaristic farewell video saying Muslims must be defended — prompted a frantic search by friends and family and an investigation by worried counterterrorism officials.
Javed Islam, a regional police chief in Pakistan, said the men wanted to join Islamist militants in the country's tribal area before crossing into Afghanistan and said they met with a banned organization, Jaish-e-Mohammed in Hyderabad, and with representatives of a related group, Jamat-ud-Dawa, in Lahore.
"They were asking to be recruited, trained and sent on jihad," Islam said.
But Islam said those groups turned them down because they did not have any "references" from trusted militants.
Islam said the arrested Americans had spent the past few days in Sargodha, 125 miles (200 kilometers) south of the capital, Islamabad, before their arrest.
The men used the social networking site Facebook and the Internet video site YouTube to try to connect with extremist groups in Pakistan, said S.M. Imran Gardezi, the press minister at the Pakistani Embassy in Washington. When they arrived in Pakistan, they took that effort to the street.
"They were trying to link up to some groups, but there is no evidence for now that there was a definite plan," Gardezi said.
Local Pakistanis became suspicious of the young men and tipped off police, he said. Police arrested the group in a home belonging to the uncle of one of the men. Gardezi said the uncle had past ties to extremist groups.
Gardezi said the men have not been turned over to the FBI and that Pakistan intended to carry out its own legal process.
Another Pakistani law enforcement official, Usman Anwar, the local police chief in Sargodha, told The Associated Press the five are "directly connected" to the al-Qaida terrorist network.
"They are proudly saying they are here for jihad" or holy war, Anwar said.
U.S. diplomats have met with the five men.
"We have had access to the five detainees," Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton told reporters Thursday. She called the move "part of the usual outreach" of the U.S. government.
State Department spokesman P.J. Crowley told reporters that the U.S. officials who visited the five young Americans were U.S. Embassy security officers and FBI officials. He said U.S. consular officials are scheduled to meet with the five on Friday.
"We're in an information-gathering phase," Crowley said, adding that one question they sought to answer was why the five were in Pakistan. "We should just not draw any conclusions at this point," he said.
The five students were making preparations to voluntarily return to the United States several days ago, before they were detained, according to Nina Ginsberg, the lawyer for the families.
"The families had gotten indications that they had decided to come back," she said.
She said she has seen the farewell video, and while it was troublesome, "I don't believe it constitutes a crime. I don't think it goes over the edge of asking or directing people to commit acts of violence."
The young men's families asked the FBI for help after finding a farewell video left by the men showing scenes of war and casualties and saying Muslims must be defended.
"One person appeared in that video and they made references to the ongoing conflict in the world and that young Muslims have to do something," said Nihad Awad of the Council on American-Islamic Relations, or CAIR. The video has not been made public.
After the disappearance of the five men in late November, their families, members of the local Muslim community, sought help from CAIR, which put them in touch with the FBI and got them a lawyer.
The men range in age from 19 to 25. Three of the arrested Americans are of Pakistani descent, one is of Egyptian descent and the other has Yemeni origins, police officer Tahir Gujjar said.
One, Ramy Zamzam, is a dental student at Howard University. Pakistani police officer Tahir Gujjar identified three of the others under arrest as Eman Yasir, Waqar Hasan, and Umer Farooq.
The fifth young man was identified as Ahmed Mimi by a Pakistani government official in Washington, who was not authorized to discuss the case and spoke on condition of anonymity.
According to a Pakistani official who also spoke on condition of anonymity, the group applied for travel visas in November. On their visa applications, their stated reason for travel was to attend a friend's marriage and go sightseeing. They were arrested Monday, the official said.
Farooq's father, Khalid Farooq, also was detained. Pakistan police officials say the elder Farooq had a computer business in Virginia and shuttled between the U.S. and Pakistan. Investigators are still trying to establish what role — if any — he played in the men's alleged activities, officials said.
The men were arrested at a house in Sargodha, Pakistani officers said. Islam said investigators are sharing their findings with FBI officials now in Sargodha.
The American men have not been charged. It was not clear if they had been appointed lawyers.
Anwar said officers seized a laptop, jihadi literature and maps of Pakistani cities from the men.
Pakistan has many militant groups based in its territory and the U.S. has been pressing the government to crack down on extremism. Al-Qaida and Taliban militants are believed to be hiding in lawless tribal areas near the Afghan border.
The case is the latest in a series that will likely fan concerns among Western nations that their citizens — specially of Pakistani origin — are traveling to the country to connect with al-Qaida or take part in training or indoctrination sessions.
According to officials at CAIR, the five left the country at the end of November without telling their families.
After the young men left, at least one phoned his family still claiming to be in the United States, but the caller ID information suggested they were overseas.
A Howard University spokesman confirmed Zamzam was a student there but declined further comment.
Samirah Ali, president of Howard University's Muslim Student Association, said the FBI contacted her last week about Zamzam, and told her he had been missing for a week. Ali said she's known Zamzam for three years and never suspected he would be involved in radical activities.
"He's a very nice guy, very cordial, very friendly," Ali said.

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One can only hope they don't
One can only hope they don't get extradited back to the U.S. If Pakistan wants to help with our trash, I say do a flyover with some Predators and help them with some of theirs.
THE NORTHERN VIRGINIA QUESTION
Repetitive behavior has been established. What's going on in Northern Virginia? All of these NVA muslims who turn out to be traitors should leave my country. The 9/11 hijackers attended a mosque in Northern Virginia, the guy who went to school up there plotted to kill a sitting President, the Army Psychologist islamic radical attended a mosque up there, now these 5 guys plotted to fight Americans in Afghanistan. These foreigners, and at times their related families, of an opposing religion are coming to our country only to exploit it and hurt it from within. We must petition the State Department to become more stringent in denying foreigners entry into our great country.
Born US Citizens
These guys were born US Citizens, also, not everyone in the Mosque is bad, so you will be unamerican by persecuting hundreds of innocent US Citizens against the very principles the nation was founded on. In turn, this will enrage some timid people here at home and next thing you know, we will have the suburbs of Paris. Remember, many muslims are born in this nation, fought and died for the freedoms here. Many have left their jobs to become translators of farsi, arabic, pashtu etc for the FBI, there are even muslims in Special forces fighting with vigor and ferocity against their ancestors. There are muslims in silicone valley and NASA as well. I heard that 1 in 7 people in NASA is of middle east orgin. This is always going to be the disadvantage of a free nation, that it can be attacked from within. Because if we take away rights for the muslims, then we will eventually take them away from everyone. How do we deal with it. Instead of isolating people and being a snob, find a muslim guy, better if from abroad and befriend him, invite him over for foot ball etc.
'TIMID PEOPLE' ARE THROWN IN THE TRASH'
'this will enrage some timid people here at home and next thing you know, we will have the suburbs of Paris.'
I would welcome such a thing. Europe is weak; existentialism and a 1.1 birth rate has taken a hold. America is strong.
Let's see: 307 million Americans (85-90 percent Christian) versus 5-7 million of those 'timid people.' (within my great country)
We know how that will end! But then again this has been the history of your people for centuries.... defeat.
cntd
What happend with the 9-11 19 guys is that they were normal party guys into booze and girls in their home countries, then they went to Germany to study. The germans did not make friends with them, invite them for beers and essentially they felt lonely and isolated in an unfamiliar place. They found something familiar to them, the mosques and slowly got radicalized. At the real root, these people doing this, leaving america to go on Jihad adventures are lonely and they feel mistunderstood. They need friends they can vent too. Many muslims in this country are frustrated about the double standard of our foreign policy, against Irans nukes but buying their oil. Against Saddam killing radical muslims in his country but we take him out and were having to do the same. If we don't get to know our neighbors, we could end up like the french, who have a real problem brewing in their suburbs.
ISLAM NEEDS A RENAISSANCE
I understand some of what your you are trying to articulate. It is most beneficial for those of opposing viewpoints and religions views to break bread.
Your people must stop your literal translation of the Quran. Your people literally translate every word in the Quran. Hundreds of years ago Christians literally interpreted the Bible and we all know what the end result was... chaos and conflict. Your people must progress to a figurative translation of the Quran. You need a Renaissance and or Reformation to take place. This will evolve your people's faith. Why do you think all of the Western nations have achieved so much spanning the past 5-600 years? It is because they were able to gradually establish some form of an alliance or subordinate relationship between the nation-state and an established religion,Christianity. As long as your people continue in this fashion you will be in conflict with the Westernized world. Time, history, humanitarianism, economic and military power is on our side, not yours.
These guys----------
Must be total idiots! Imagine that---- you now need a resume' and have your references checked to be a terrorist! This is the dumbest thing I've read in some time ----thanks for the laugh!
FBI:
Please don't bring them bask!! Pakistans justice system would be more befitting... "No Vacancy" at GITMO!! Wait, check that. They would be tried in Chicago... oh yeah, for what again?? Leave them there, like I said!!!
Do you have a clue how Paki justice works?
Blue eyed boy, pull your head out from where the sun doesnt shine. If you have money to pay bribe, your free!!!. The prison guards make $30 per month, the judges make $100 per month and whatever they can collect in bakshish/bribes. - wake up, we want them here so we can interrogate them and perhaps find out if there are more! duhh!!!
Ironic
even the militants have standards and a need of references for employment. Its a good thing were being PC with the muslims, the Paki individuals involved in this apprehension could have easily looked the other way if they felt the US offends their religion and let these guys goto camp. Pakistan is the next place ready to turn radical and moreover they have around 140M people and nukes. Perhaps there were more guys that got passed along to the camp and these guys were screened out as being potential screw ups and thrown under the bus. The terrorists have an advantage, a win for them is succeeding once out of perhaps hundreds of attempts. For the civilized world, losing means failing just once out of hundreds of opportunities. For example, 99 terrorists get caught, but one succeeds , they feel success for the overall cause. Conversly for us, all the 99 successes prior don't count as this one slip causes a massive failure and disenchantment from our side. Hence, we need to be PC, have good relations with our soon to be enemies as we can't be in all places all the time. These guys are especially dangerous considering their citizenship.