Submitted by am81430 on Fri, 06/20/2008 at 12:04 pm.
ethanol has not driven up the price of corn. The price of oil has driven up the price of corn. We can drill to our hearts content, but it does not change the fact that we do not have the refinery capacity to deal with it. By the way, fuel mileage on cars is actually lower than what it was in 1980.
Submitted by davidt11241 on Fri, 06/20/2008 at 11:57 am.
Those commenters who are against drilling and think that we could have non-fossil fuel energy sources available to replace fossil fuels are the ones who are ignorant. This is not an "either or" situation. Why not a "both and" scenario. We drill in Anwar and off the coast as we look for alternative sources that are viable and make economic sense. Ethanol, for example, has not worked in that it lowers fuel economy 10-15% as well as has driven up the price of corn (and other perishables as a result of the corn shortage). Conservation is fine but conservation alone is not going to get us there...nor are alternative fuels (not in the short to medium terms). Get your heads out of the sand or whereever they are!
Just look at the liberals on this site and their comments. First one I saw was from one that claimed even though 83% are in favor of drilling now, it is US who are "idiots" Isn't it typical of the left to believe only they are smart enough to know what is best for us?
Others whine about pollution when there hasn't been an oil spill from off shore drilling in decades and in fact Norway and Britain have been drilling for years and years off their own coasts with not a single problem
Other claim it will take 10 years to get the oil on line. Total bull since if the process is fast tracked we could be burning gasoline from the new oil in 2-3 years. Plus if Clinton hadn't vetoes the ANWR drilling proposal passed in 1998 we would TODAY have that oil in the pipeline and we would be paying about $10.00-1.25 less per gallon for gasoline. Thanks Bill, thanks libs.
Libs whine we need to get off gasoline and onto something else. Fine, but what do we do in the meantime? they are so out of step with the great majority of Americans and yet they still stupidly claim it is they that are right and everyone else who is wrong. Their arrogance is stunning.
Submitted by Jermflux on Fri, 06/20/2008 at 11:21 am.
How many years till we see this oil hit the market? Well, how many years do I have to go to school before I see a return? Guess I should just not go if it's not going to do anything for me right here, and right now. Instant gratification is the only solution to every problem? I guess that's why we are in the mess we are in now.
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Submitted by selluwud on Fri, 06/20/2008 at 6:47 am.
I saw the word stupid used to describe anyone who support drilling for oil off our coast. I wonder how this person got his education. By riding a horse to a class in a tent heated with a wood fire? Maybe his clothes weren't manufactured by a textile mill powered by electricity (gee...how do they make that?)and he wore buckskins or maybe even fig leaves. We didn't become the industrialized nation that we are and will continue to be for decades to come with out the energy supplied by oil. Just the passing of this bill will pressure the oil market downward with the promise of future oil deliveries. Other competing oil producers will have to acknowledge the fact that we're shedding our asinine regulatory and environmental bondage that have hamstrung us in the past. Sure we will one day have to have other sources of energy, but we need relief now or the watershed consequences of high fuel prices are going to drive us into economic chaos. Conserve, yes; Ignore the truth, no.
Submitted by joannes43208 on Thu, 06/19/2008 at 8:12 pm.
Every year we are told how major oil companies break their previous profit-level while every day Americans are having to make major changes in their lifestyle to accommodate filling the oil companies profit pocket. We need to STOP the madness. Oil as a fuel needs to be COMPLETELY taken out of the picture. There have been several solutions to the problem. If big oil would stop hiring Blackwater associates to kill and intimidate everyone who threatens to weaken their monopoly, we wouldn't even be having this discussion.
Submitted by Craig Paskewic on Thu, 06/19/2008 at 7:42 pm.
What do you do when you're hungry? You eat.
What do you do when you're thirsty? You drink.
Right now, this country needs oil..ergo, we drill for oil. At the same time, we in the private sector and who make up that power group called "consumers", start or continue to purchase vehicles that are economical to operate.
The internal combustion engine is still the most effective way to transport goods and people.
davidt
ethanol has not driven up the price of corn. The price of oil has driven up the price of corn. We can drill to our hearts content, but it does not change the fact that we do not have the refinery capacity to deal with it. By the way, fuel mileage on cars is actually lower than what it was in 1980.
Whose ignorant?
Those commenters who are against drilling and think that we could have non-fossil fuel energy sources available to replace fossil fuels are the ones who are ignorant. This is not an "either or" situation. Why not a "both and" scenario. We drill in Anwar and off the coast as we look for alternative sources that are viable and make economic sense. Ethanol, for example, has not worked in that it lowers fuel economy 10-15% as well as has driven up the price of corn (and other perishables as a result of the corn shortage). Conservation is fine but conservation alone is not going to get us there...nor are alternative fuels (not in the short to medium terms). Get your heads out of the sand or whereever they are!
liberals and drilling
Just look at the liberals on this site and their comments. First one I saw was from one that claimed even though 83% are in favor of drilling now, it is US who are "idiots" Isn't it typical of the left to believe only they are smart enough to know what is best for us?
Others whine about pollution when there hasn't been an oil spill from off shore drilling in decades and in fact Norway and Britain have been drilling for years and years off their own coasts with not a single problem
Other claim it will take 10 years to get the oil on line. Total bull since if the process is fast tracked we could be burning gasoline from the new oil in 2-3 years. Plus if Clinton hadn't vetoes the ANWR drilling proposal passed in 1998 we would TODAY have that oil in the pipeline and we would be paying about $10.00-1.25 less per gallon for gasoline. Thanks Bill, thanks libs.
Libs whine we need to get off gasoline and onto something else. Fine, but what do we do in the meantime? they are so out of step with the great majority of Americans and yet they still stupidly claim it is they that are right and everyone else who is wrong. Their arrogance is stunning.
Liberalism is indeed a mental disor
patience
How many years till we see this oil hit the market? Well, how many years do I have to go to school before I see a return? Guess I should just not go if it's not going to do anything for me right here, and right now. Instant gratification is the only solution to every problem? I guess that's why we are in the mess we are in now.
The Poll was Freeped - Ignore
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2033884/posts
This poll was "freeped" by the RWNs on Freerepublic.com. It cannot be considered objective in any fashion once overrun by the radicals from that organization.
"Freerepublic.com - biasing polls wherever possible to advance our radical agenda!"
Need to cut our dependence on oil?
When you greenies get into your Prius after work this afternoon, look around. How much plastic do you see? Where does plastic come from?
OIL
They've tried green alternatives to plastic, but none were viable (trust me, I was on a testing team for a corn starch plastic; it was a joke).
Oil for fuel is miniscule compared to the other products we rely on it for...
Stupid???
I saw the word stupid used to describe anyone who support drilling for oil off our coast. I wonder how this person got his education. By riding a horse to a class in a tent heated with a wood fire? Maybe his clothes weren't manufactured by a textile mill powered by electricity (gee...how do they make that?)and he wore buckskins or maybe even fig leaves. We didn't become the industrialized nation that we are and will continue to be for decades to come with out the energy supplied by oil. Just the passing of this bill will pressure the oil market downward with the promise of future oil deliveries. Other competing oil producers will have to acknowledge the fact that we're shedding our asinine regulatory and environmental bondage that have hamstrung us in the past. Sure we will one day have to have other sources of energy, but we need relief now or the watershed consequences of high fuel prices are going to drive us into economic chaos. Conserve, yes; Ignore the truth, no.
More Smoke and Mirrors
And how many years before any of this oil actually hits the market?
You Seriously Want To Feed The Oil Companies?
Every year we are told how major oil companies break their previous profit-level while every day Americans are having to make major changes in their lifestyle to accommodate filling the oil companies profit pocket. We need to STOP the madness. Oil as a fuel needs to be COMPLETELY taken out of the picture. There have been several solutions to the problem. If big oil would stop hiring Blackwater associates to kill and intimidate everyone who threatens to weaken their monopoly, we wouldn't even be having this discussion.
Simple Logic
What do you do when you're hungry? You eat.
What do you do when you're thirsty? You drink.
Right now, this country needs oil..ergo, we drill for oil. At the same time, we in the private sector and who make up that power group called "consumers", start or continue to purchase vehicles that are economical to operate.
The internal combustion engine is still the most effective way to transport goods and people.